Train cancelled due to 'unusually large passenger flow'

Steptoe · 21 Nov 2019

As the headline says, but a surprising reason for cancellation; unless of course no-one volunteered to get off to reduce the numbers to an acceptable level.

I'm guessing the train formation wasn't the one in the EDP photograph!

The 9.17 train from Ipswich to Lowestoft was cancelled after too many people attempted to board the train.

In a Tweet, Greater Anglia said: "09:17 Ipswich to Lowestoft will be cancelled due to an unusually large passenger flow."

https://www.edp24.co.uk/news/greater-anglia-service-cancelled-from-ipswich-to-lowestoft-1-6386874

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Bletchleyite · 21 Nov 2019

Doesn't that normally come up if the previous service to form it was delayed due to said unusually large volume of passengers boarding and alighting?

Alfie1014 · 21 Nov 2019

Already covered in the Greater Anglia Rolling Stock thread,
https://www.railforums.co.uk/thread...ng-stock-updates.143516/page-100#post-4292285

But probably was a single car 153 like much of the services in Suffolk recently, surprised this isn't happening on the Ipswich - Cambridge service where the previous norm was 3 car 170s and now many services even in the peaks are a single car.

fairliered · 22 Nov 2019

Did anybody get the name of the unusually large passenger?

zuriblue · 22 Nov 2019

fairliered said:
Did anybody get the name of the unusually large passenger?

That’s not a nice way to talk about Florence.

dk1 · 22 Nov 2019

Usual sloppy media not finding out the full facts :rolleyes:

westv · 22 Nov 2019

The reason for the delay

fairliered said:
Did anybody get the name of the unusually large passenger?

or a passenger with an unusually large flow?

Tetchytyke · 22 Nov 2019

dk1 said:
Usual sloppy media not finding out the full facts

Given the website has literally just quoted word-for-word the official statement from Greater Anglia, what extra "full facts" are there?

Go on, tell all. Clearly GA didn't want to say, otherwise they would have done.

Jamiescott1 · 22 Nov 2019

Wouldn't that have a knock on effect and then the next service would be even more full

infobleep · 22 Nov 2019

Jamiescott1 said:
Wouldn't that have a knock on effect and then the next service would be even more full

My thoughts exactly. Must be more to it than is being given out.

dk1 · 22 Nov 2019

Jamiescott1 said:
Wouldn't that have a knock on effect and then the next service would be even more full

More to do with late running and the effect on the single line. Root cause severe overcrowding.

infobleep · 22 Nov 2019

dk1 said:
More to do with late running and the effect on the single line. Root cause severe overcrowding.

Would the next train have severe overcrowding and late running with an effect on the single line?

Jamiescott1 · 22 Nov 2019

infobleep said:
Would the next train have severe overcrowding and late running with an effect on the single line?

When I used to take the sudbury - Mark's tey train. If trains were cancelled then this usually resulted in the following train being even more full

dk1 · 22 Nov 2019

infobleep said:
Would the next train have severe overcrowding and late running with an effect on the single line?

No the train that was overcrowded ran so late allowing the 0917 to run would have taken hours for the service to recover. Easier to knock it on the head for the greater good.

dk1 · 22 Nov 2019

Jamiescott1 said:
When I used to take the sudbury - Mark's tey train. If trains were cancelled then this usually resulted in the following train being even more full

The train that was cancelled would not have been busy in this situation.

Starmill · 22 Nov 2019

The two sentences in the opening post appear to be the entire article.

OK thanks?

Ibex · 22 Nov 2019

The NR TRUST reports states this train was cancelled due to a track circuit failure at Chippenham Junction (Cambridgeshire that is, not Wiltshire!)

It looks like this train is formed off a Cambridge arrival which was +25 late (07:44 Cambridge - Ipswich) so presumably there was no unit or crew available? Maybe they required a PNB on arrival at Ipswich or such like.

The unusually large passenger flow business appears to be "fake news".

sprunt · 23 Nov 2019

Ibex said:
The unusually large passenger flow business appears to be "fake news".

From Greater Anglia. The phrase originates in their tweet embedded in the article.

sefton · 23 Nov 2019

09:17 Ipswich to Lowestoft will be cancelled due to an unusually large passenger flow.
— Greater Anglia (@greateranglia) November 21, 2019

Why on earth do railway companies not simply speak in plain English, but instead spout nonsense 'railway' language?

Fair enough if they want to converse with each other in that nonsense, but why the hell do they do it when speaking to customers?

infobleep · 24 Nov 2019

dk1 said:
No the train that was overcrowded ran so late allowing the 0917 to run would have taken hours for the service to recover. Easier to knock it on the head for the greater good.

So the overcrowded train wasn't the one cancelled then?

Sleepy · 24 Nov 2019

infobleep said:
So the overcrowded train wasn't the one cancelled then?

Correct - it was operating to Cambridge first.

dk1 · 24 Nov 2019

infobleep said:
So the overcrowded train wasn't the one cancelled then?

No, never was as Sleepy says. Just the root cause that's all.

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