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What bus operators are still using ticket machines other than Ticketer ticket machines?

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Correction: Vix isn't British, but Australian. My point is however that Vix, being pretty popular in the UK, is also found outside the UK, with Oslo's ruter buses being an example (I believe they use the TP5700)
 
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Vix is a rebranding of what used to be ERG isn’t it? I think that was a British owned outfit
 

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Arriva app tells you to switch it off, which is a bit of a cheap and nasty workaround to designing things properly. The TfL "Oyster pad" target seems to be a better design to me

Ironically the first version of Arriva's contactless ticketing up DID have a separate big yellow pad you held your card against. It went when they went with Ticketer.
 

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Ticketer machines should be used on buses outside the UK too! I mean, there are some UK made ticket machines that are also on buses outside the UK, such as the VIX TP5700/TP5800 used on Oslo's buses in Norway.

Does it matter what country a ticket machine is made in?

Britain has long been at the forefront of ticket machines because of its excessive dependence on driver issuing of tickets.
 

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Does it matter what country a ticket machine is made in?

Britain has long been at the forefront of ticket machines because of its excessive dependence on driver issuing of tickets.

No...

I don't really understand what you mean by that.
 

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No...

I don't really understand what you mean by that.

British operators generally prefer to waste time getting drivers to sell a large proportion of tickets, especially single tickets which are typically only available from the driver.
 

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Actually on the Ticketr machines it seems that you can set them out to either include the card receipt on the main ticket or a separate ticket, First give you the extra ticket but South West Coaches have it as part of the main ticket or so it would seem. I didn't appear to get an extra ticket on the 96 last week.
 

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Vix is a rebranding of what used to be ERG isn’t it? I think that was a British owned outfit
No. ERG and its predecessor, AES ProData, were both Australian companies. A very early use of their ticket machines in this country was with East Kent circa 1994, as part of a Kent County Council sponsored trial of smartcards.
 

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British operators generally prefer to waste time getting drivers to sell a large proportion of tickets, especially single tickets which are typically only available from the driver.

True, but selling a lot of tickets from the driver is a very good idea in my opinion. Especially if you're in a rural area in the middle of nowhere where there is no ticket office lol
 

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True, but selling a lot of tickets from the driver is a very good idea in my opinion. Especially if you're in a rural area in the middle of nowhere where there is no ticket office lol

The vast majority of passengers are using urban and suburban services where alternatives to driver payment for single trips should be easy. In some countries, these kind of services may even be open boarding with no driver payment possible. In other countries, paying the driver might cost a lot more than using a prepaid ticket or smartcard, so that very few passengers pay the driver. In Switzerland, the Netherlands, Belgium and Denmark, all or almost all single journeys, urban or rural, can be paid for without buying a ticket from the driver.
 

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The vast majority of passengers are using urban and suburban services where alternatives to driver payment for single trips should be easy. In some countries, these kind of services may even be open boarding with no driver payment possible. In other countries, paying the driver might cost a lot more than using a prepaid ticket or smartcard, so that very few passengers pay the driver. In Switzerland, the Netherlands, Belgium and Denmark, all or almost all single journeys, urban or rural, can be paid for without buying a ticket from the driver.
I thought the discussion was about types of ticket machines, not how they're used!
 

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The vast majority of passengers are using urban and suburban services where alternatives to driver payment for single trips should be easy. In some countries, these kind of services may even be open boarding with no driver payment possible. In other countries, paying the driver might cost a lot more than using a prepaid ticket or smartcard, so that very few passengers pay the driver. In Switzerland, the Netherlands, Belgium and Denmark, all or almost all single journeys, urban or rural, can be paid for without buying a ticket from the driver.

Also in Italy. Most of the times you have to buy the ticket from advance but some companies (ANM Naples being one of them) allow you to buy the ticket from the driver at a higher cost.
 
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