Islineclear3_1
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Sadly, I see the effects almost every day. Like smoking, people don't realise until the damage is done
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Guard playing rave music in guard’s cab.
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Sadly, I see the effects almost every day. Like smoking, people don't realise until the damage is done
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That was the same question I asked. When someone says "I hate that 'rave' music", I always chuckle slightly. I've heard people say that they don't like this, or that, yet they're quite happy to listen to some cheesy happy trancey wave-your-hands-in-the-air stuff.
Perhaps we should just adopt the "music with repetitive beats" definition that they trotted out in the Criminal Justice Act of the day and ban everything. Or maybe we should all just accept that it's public transport, all human life is there, and maybe learn how to be tolerant, instead of just throwing a hissy fit every time someone does something you don't approve of. Life is far too bloody short.
Noticed this morning TPE are playing classical music on one of their stations(apart from when the Auto announcements kick in)
There are some issues there in the evening(once which caused a member of staff to be sacked who was dealing with it) so remains to be seen if it has an effect?
There are some issues there in the evening(once which caused a member of staff to be sacked who was dealing with it) so remains to be seen if it has an effect?
Islineclear3_1
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Why was a member of staff sacked?
A Guard was trying to stop Anti Social behaviour on his train that spread from the station. Was sacked after investigation despite the support of the Local Press and the family of the person involved.
Music on trains/at stations is an idea that I, personally, would be in favour of (akin to "ASDA Radio" for example). But I'm pretty certain I'm in the minority.
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I've been known to listen to bagpipe music in the rear cab on ECS, it's braw.
Occasionally when I'm having a purge of punters parked in the guard's van on the loco hauled I will pop on some Bananarama (Nathan Jones is a good one for this) and then sashay into the cage. Anyone who has not already left - must perform a wee dance/song or leave the van.
Occasionally when I'm having a purge of punters parked in the guard's van on the loco hauled I will pop on some Bananarama (Nathan Jones is a good one for this) and then sashay into the cage. Anyone who has not already left - must perform a wee dance/song or leave the van.
Well gasp shock horror, people will happily listen to music they enjoy and don't like listening to some other music.
Perhaps we should accept that on public transport we are in the vicinity of other human beings and so behave in a way that is thoughtful and considerate, you know, like your parents should have brought you up and ought to be second nature in a civilised society, which includes not enforcing your choice of music on others. Consideration for others actually improves quality of life overall, because you are far more inconvenienced by the selfish externalised costs of many others, than you gain from being selfish yourself.
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Absolutely, totally, 100% agree, why people think they have a right to inflict their own choice of music, whatever genre that may be, on others is completely beyond me, if you can't go without music then wear decent headphones and keep it to yourself
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As a massive dance music lover and seeing how upset a little music other than radio 4 annoys so many of you, I wish the guard had played it over the tannoy with the Crewe - Derby , EMT guard rapping over the top.
I would enjoy a rail journey for a change in this country.
As someone who also enjoys dance music. How I see it, the guard will have bunged on the rave music as it would at least break up the monotomy of the job. Maybe the guard was playing it a little too loud so that others can hear but at least its something different other than dreary BBC Radio.
Most people who were out raving in fields in the late 80's and early 90's will be now in their late 40's / early 50's, maybe the guard could be of the same generation.
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That's reminded me of the time I accessed a public address system in an office at college because the door was unlocked and I played music off my phone and placed my phone in front of the microphone. The look on everyone's faces when I left the office was priceless. However, I would NEVER attempt it in a train as I would hate to potentially endanger the running of the train and potentially have the British Transport Police waiting for me at the next stop.
Disco guard's van sounds like an excellent idea. Do you take requests?
The Midland Railway at Butterley hosts a fantastic music festival every summer, at which one of the stages is the guard's van on one of their trains.
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ASDA FM Live was available online until January this year, I was a regular online listener and was gutted when it went offline and was replaced with ASDA Radio.
It was only 2 or 3 days ago I was fantasizing about how my perfect railway would have a TOC-branded radio station playing on board and at stations!
Didn't Virgin use to have a headphone radio system on board?
They did but it was introduced almost at the same time as MP3 players took off so fell out of use. Eventually the space given over to it internally was used to fit WiFi. The seats are still fitted with the headphone sockets and controls however.
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Think I've still got my Virgin earphones somewhere. They were on sale in the on board shop.ASDA FM Live was available online until January this year, I was a regular online listener and was gutted when it went offline and was replaced with ASDA Radio.
It was only 2 or 3 days ago I was fantasizing about how my perfect railway would have a TOC-branded radio station playing on board and at stations!
Didn't Virgin use to have a headphone radio system on board?
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Now that's more like it, a choice, use the train if you want to listen to music, don't use the train if you don't want to listen to the music, I doubt the national rail system will follow suit though, sadly .....
The company who supply ASDA Radio changed, I think, hence the changes to how it's delivered I assume. Honestly, as someone who works in radio, I would *love* to work on something like that. ASDA/Co-Op/whatever. Not even any Ofcom reg's to worry about, bliss.ASDA FM Live was available online until January this year, I was a regular online listener and was gutted when it went offline and was replaced with ASDA Radio.
It was only 2 or 3 days ago I was fantasizing about how my perfect railway would have a TOC-branded radio station playing on board and at stations!
Didn't Virgin use to have a headphone radio system on board?
And yeah, Virgin did have that. But, as others have said, the timing wasn't right for it.
I love the TOC radio idea too but, in reality, supplying a live radio station to moving trains is probably a technical step too far without a national FM licence, which ain't gonna happen.
The 51 bus route in Sheffield trialled a recorded popular music radio station in the late 70s, and earned the nickname "disco buses". Very unpopular.
At the same time we played "Baker Street" on the steelworks tannoy on a Sunday prep shift. A police visit the following day pointed out that "raves" had not been invented yet and that loud music played in cavernous buildings was illegal as it could be heard miles away.
At the same time we played "Baker Street" on the steelworks tannoy on a Sunday prep shift. A police visit the following day pointed out that "raves" had not been invented yet and that loud music played in cavernous buildings was illegal as it could be heard miles away.
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Hypothetically (ignoring regulatory and implementation difficulties) I imagine this could be done over GSM-R, of course needing a higher bit rate than a typical voice channel.
Which track did you plump for?
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Yeah virgin used to have it so you could plug in and listen to Virgin Radio or a small selection of other channels, didnt last long, i think their first onboard Wi-fi cannibalised the equipment.
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Top work!
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Thanks, I'm glad you approve.
That's a thought. I'm not sure the bitrate requirement would be too onerous, 192 kbps equivalent should be comfortable, and I reckon that's achievable on a 3G connection if you use a decent algorithm (e.g. Opus). The challenge, as with onboard WiFi, would be in ensuring a reliable connection along the whole route. Possible, but prohibitively expensive, would be my conclusion.
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