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Abellio Greater Anglia Class 755s (Regional Trains)
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At least some must, given there's one diagram
Not just the drivers, but also the guards need to be trained on the new trains. There was some training going on, during yesterday's 0654 Ipswich-Cambridge. I seen them put a flexi-barrier (like used for queue systems) across between the carriages. It's hidden in the doors. Then the lights are turned off. It's at roughly shoulder/eye level for an average adult. Kids could easily run under it.
dk1
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So good to hear that the first 755/3 has been accepted into traffic.
eastdyke
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Excellent news, thanks.
And soon to be seen on the Felixstowes would be totally logical.
Had my first ever Stadler trips
Cheers
Edited to reflect my reading of all the posts, not just the most recent
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Mordac
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Are these working on the Sudbury branch yet?
No. Today is the first day for the 3 car and the Sudbury branch can only take 3 car trains. Still other training and testing to do on that line.
Mordac
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Thanks, I didn't know that, I was just wondering about the logistics of that line given it's a diesel island in the middle of electrified lines. Reminds me a bit of the Marston Vale.
This certainly isn’t exclusive to Stadler.
For any train these days, approximately 80 % of the value comes from sub-suppliers.
CTS1990
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06:54 ex-IPS experiencing engine faults at Newmarket. Looks like the new start didn’t last very long...
dk1
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17 late arriving after a reset. 419 again
ivzem
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How many and which 755s have been in/are currently available for service?
TheDavibob
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Are there any differences in range between the /3s and /4s?
Whatever the proportion of a product comes from sub-suppliers, it is still the responsibility of the supplier to make sure their product works. I presume there must be penalty clauses in the contract between Stadler and Abellio?
ashkeba
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I found it is not "cycle space this carriage" even on the electric Flirts 745s, as I explain in the other thread at https://www.railforums.co.uk/thread...s-intercity-trains.191504/page-8#post-4309191Does it definitely mean that now? https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/321-black-triangles.100082/ says it used to mean only that there is no van at the other end, so large luggage should be brought to this end, which is similar in practice - exactly the same on 755s at present, but might not be on 321, 379 or 170s. I suspect it's not on the 170s but I don't have one in front of me right now
eastdyke
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[Warning! Long post!]
I had been annoyed with myself for not having experienced a 755 in service. Put that right yesterday with my first trips Ipswich - Felixstowe and return.
At Ipswich.
755 412 was the unit, from P2B. It looked good, sounded good and was good.
Pleased that it was not from P1. Would have been a longer walk and into the wet as the X (stop) board for 755/3 and 755/4 on P1 currently limits their use to approx. 85m of the country end which is outside the platform canopy.
The external PIS left me in know doubt as to my destination and stops available en-route.
The level boarding will speed up entries and exits in total safety, especially for those like me who have to take their time to 'climb' in and out of an Azuma for instance.
The ability of the door and seat plan to deal with significant numbers of passengers was not tested, there seemed to be more staff and crew on the platform than passengers for the late morning departure.
In Running to Felixstowe.
Smooth in both acceleration and deceleration, always felt that there was plenty more 'in hand' which there obviously was on a route limited to 75mph and that only for the approx. 8 miles between Derby Road and Trimley, a section which includes the Trimley stop.
Tried a number of seats, the backrests of which were more comfortable for me with my ancient and inflexible back than the Azuma std. class seat that I travelled on later in the day. Leg room fine (again for me), much better than the EMR 158 that I had been on earlier.
I had been pre-programmed to an extent by this board. I was warned of the intrusive heating duct, I was just ok with it but I do not have a frame as large as some. It was not comfortable on which to rest my foot. I guess most journeys on a 755 will be no longer than 45 minutes, although there will be plenty at up to 90 mins, up to over 150 mins for Lowestoft - Liverpool Street. Perhaps I would baulk at the latter but of course over half the seats do not have said duct.
The corridor through the engine compartments was not unduly noisy at the very modest performance required on the run, idling at stops was almost soothing, nearly as good for me as an idling 66.
The windows were generally great, although I do agree totally with @Bletchleyite in respect of the emergency window.
The window containing the external PIS looked from the slightly elevated table seats above the bogies as if it should annoy me, in practice at the seats directly affected it did not. The mesh within the window glazing was, with my poorish eyesight, far far less intrusive to my travel experience than the dirt on the outside of the other trains travelled on during the day.
[Off topic] At Felixstowe
A very pleasant lunchtime spent with friends in the bar of the Orwell Hotel just across the road from the station, GER heritage as well!
Overall reflections
The ambience of the very lightly loaded train left me feeling as if I had been looking at a Schreiber Kitchen catalogue (all that fake wood) but I am sure that a couple more trips on a busy train, out of Cambridge or Norwich and hopefully in the next few weeks, will change all of that.
In terms of their utility to travel on the rural side of Greater Anglia then full introduction simply cannot come quickly enough. The game is changing but it is well into extra time, I hope that penalties do not follow.
I am not sure of any revised target from where we are now to get all of the 755s into service, staff all trained and remaining routes/minor station stops all cleared. One 755 a week* would take us to around early April but, with the 153s being rumoured to start leaving as early as next week and EMR ramping up their efforts to get the 156s, time appears to be very much against GA right now.
* for all remaining units from the 38 total. GA did try to manage the rural routes with just 26 legacy units (new routes/services excluded).
I had been annoyed with myself for not having experienced a 755 in service. Put that right yesterday with my first trips Ipswich - Felixstowe and return.
At Ipswich.
755 412 was the unit, from P2B. It looked good, sounded good and was good.
Pleased that it was not from P1. Would have been a longer walk and into the wet as the X (stop) board for 755/3 and 755/4 on P1 currently limits their use to approx. 85m of the country end which is outside the platform canopy.
The external PIS left me in know doubt as to my destination and stops available en-route.
The level boarding will speed up entries and exits in total safety, especially for those like me who have to take their time to 'climb' in and out of an Azuma for instance.
The ability of the door and seat plan to deal with significant numbers of passengers was not tested, there seemed to be more staff and crew on the platform than passengers for the late morning departure.
In Running to Felixstowe.
Smooth in both acceleration and deceleration, always felt that there was plenty more 'in hand' which there obviously was on a route limited to 75mph and that only for the approx. 8 miles between Derby Road and Trimley, a section which includes the Trimley stop.
Tried a number of seats, the backrests of which were more comfortable for me with my ancient and inflexible back than the Azuma std. class seat that I travelled on later in the day. Leg room fine (again for me), much better than the EMR 158 that I had been on earlier.
I had been pre-programmed to an extent by this board. I was warned of the intrusive heating duct, I was just ok with it but I do not have a frame as large as some. It was not comfortable on which to rest my foot. I guess most journeys on a 755 will be no longer than 45 minutes, although there will be plenty at up to 90 mins, up to over 150 mins for Lowestoft - Liverpool Street. Perhaps I would baulk at the latter but of course over half the seats do not have said duct.
The corridor through the engine compartments was not unduly noisy at the very modest performance required on the run, idling at stops was almost soothing, nearly as good for me as an idling 66.
The windows were generally great, although I do agree totally with @Bletchleyite in respect of the emergency window.
The window containing the external PIS looked from the slightly elevated table seats above the bogies as if it should annoy me, in practice at the seats directly affected it did not. The mesh within the window glazing was, with my poorish eyesight, far far less intrusive to my travel experience than the dirt on the outside of the other trains travelled on during the day.
[Off topic] At Felixstowe
A very pleasant lunchtime spent with friends in the bar of the Orwell Hotel just across the road from the station, GER heritage as well!
Overall reflections
The ambience of the very lightly loaded train left me feeling as if I had been looking at a Schreiber Kitchen catalogue (all that fake wood) but I am sure that a couple more trips on a busy train, out of Cambridge or Norwich and hopefully in the next few weeks, will change all of that.
In terms of their utility to travel on the rural side of Greater Anglia then full introduction simply cannot come quickly enough. The game is changing but it is well into extra time, I hope that penalties do not follow.
I am not sure of any revised target from where we are now to get all of the 755s into service, staff all trained and remaining routes/minor station stops all cleared. One 755 a week* would take us to around early April but, with the 153s being rumoured to start leaving as early as next week and EMR ramping up their efforts to get the 156s, time appears to be very much against GA right now.
* for all remaining units from the 38 total. GA did try to manage the rural routes with just 26 legacy units (new routes/services excluded).
fat_boy_pete
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'Bitten', I'll bite. I see what you did there!
F Great Eastern
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No doubt, it is someone elses fault, definately not their sensible plans.....
Was it a hare by any chance that did the bite? Maybe it was the one allegedly hit last night.
fat_boy_pete
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eastdyke
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I did predict the cancellation reason - 'Too many trains needing fuel at the same time' ......
I heard that CP was to become MB following the refit and a lot of thought.
MB for 'Mrs Beetons', as the place would be full of Jugged Hares.
I'll get my coat too ......
On a more serious note, and of course it would be more unbudgeted expenditure, was any thought given to a 'new' fuel point the station side of Carrow Road bridge? Back in the day there was one below Lower Clarence Road (at the bridge end), not sure what it was called.
It's still there, it's imaginatively called "the fuel siding". Its far too short as is, I've been told it'll fit a 3 car 170 but I never tried it, saw it and don't believe it. No real way to lengthen it, it stops right next to Carrow Road and no space to move the points back towards Norwich.
DaveHarries
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I plan to be in East Anglia during March 2020 and will hope to get a photo of at least one Class 755. Of the 5 days I plan to be in the area I will have something on for one of them but plan to use the rest for rail photos in various locations, such as the SBs at March (and a number of other places) and, for its searchlight signals, Clacton.
What routes, other than Lowestoft (although I will be staying in the town of March so I could get over there) are the new Stadler trains planned to run on?
Dave
What routes, other than Lowestoft (although I will be staying in the town of March so I could get over there) are the new Stadler trains planned to run on?
Dave
ashkeba
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Everything except the London-Cambridge and London-Essex commuter services, which means they will be on the Peterborough-Ipswich that calls at March. 755s on the non-electrified routes and 745s on London-Norwich and London-Stansted.
F Great Eastern
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Should be on most local services out of Norwich or Ipswich at that point.
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Rick1984
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I saw a 3 car unit in Lowestoft late morning today. Think it was testing?
First time I've seen a 3 car moving
First time I've seen a 3 car moving
eastdyke
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Ah, thanks! It went in in the days of Derby Lightweights so plenty long enough back then.
Picture from https://www.railcar.co.uk/images/derby-lightweight/all/3
[Copyright Tim Stubbs]
I hope that the incident this morning is fully resolved and suitably proofed against a recurrence.
Cheers!
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I think by March, with the current progress and requirements to return units to leasing companies to be cascaded, almost every "diesel" service will be a 755. Barring fuelling blips there seems to now be good progress on introduction (and they have basically all the units)
dansoper
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Obviously we all know they’re the class 755, but why aren’t those numbers on the front of the train? Is that unusual? Unique?
Certainly got some grunt these units. Sat at the front this afternoon. Upon departure from Thetford I assume the driver had demanded max power, could hear the wheels slipping and I swear I heard laughter from the cab. Unfortunately I couldn't get my phone gps working quickly enough, but I'd estimate we were doing over 40mph by the end of the platform. Really did shoot off like a rocket.
They must be great fun to drive. As a mere passenger I really like them too, perfect environment to relax or work according to my need.
I can see patronage increasing before to long, so more frequent services and/or insertion of more intermediate cars might be required.
They must be great fun to drive. As a mere passenger I really like them too, perfect environment to relax or work according to my need.
I can see patronage increasing before to long, so more frequent services and/or insertion of more intermediate cars might be required.