F Great Eastern
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It was a bit of a disaster Saturday and that's before 4 more 153s went.
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It was a bit of a disaster Saturday and that's before 4 more 153s went.
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TubeMapCentral
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Is the lucky recipient of the job allowed to time travel a year back to the past when the future was predicted with remarkable accuracy?
https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/greater-anglia-2019-what-could-possibly-go-wrong.174779/
dk1
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Social media is full of reminiscing tosh about the East Anglian Scuds with some even saying they will miss the God awful heaps. Where has that love suddenly come from? Good riddance I say.
F Great Eastern
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Indeed, and many of us had concerns even before that going back to the start of the bid.
I'm not going to miss the filthy, unloved dogboxes myself and it is about time they were replaced, but a 153 is better than no train at all, which might be what is happening on the Ipswich locals next week.
dk1
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And i was going to get nothing but grief from passengers too. Not so bad in pairs but it was very rare that both small cabs where buried in. Won't be missed.
43096
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There are some drivers who actually prefer the "new" cab of a dogbox.
How on earth did they manage that? Do they dump on the track or have they got sewage tanks? Even so, surely one of the basics for every train that goes to depot is empty the tanks and fill up the fresh water.
Where can I find these mythical creatures?
dk1
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It's not always that easy with the depot in the upside down & often very busy state it is. Of course it shouldn't happen but increasingly IC sets are running around with very few working toilets.
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In the cab!
dk1
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It's a very frightening thought. Counselling is always available.
dk1
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It's why guards have refused the sets & trains cancelled. It has come to that several times. Increased station stops have also occurred allowing said passengers some relief.
Adrian1980uk
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Not the greatest advert for crown point.. It amazes me that cancelling trains doesn't appear to be prohibitively expensive
dk1
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No point making it prohibitively expensive as that won't help it run. It does cost the TOCs a fair amount to cancel.
eastdyke
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Well that's good, all we need is another ~10 by Jan 1st. Oh and amongst other things, completion of all staff training and route/minor station clearances.
I am ignoring the need for and consequences of stretched diagrams/paths to secure the intra-day fuelling of 'some' of the units. And the work to ready the new IC stock.
LOL.
I don't know where any/all financial penalty for delay sits and this may be key to what is happening.
One thing that has not received much comment is the huge conflict that must be arising at CP.
The site is being rebuilt to maintain the Stadler fleet (much in evidence on my fly-past last Wednesday). That same site is being used to ready (and quite probably modify) the new fleet.
And to maintain the legacy fleet.
Departure of more of the legacy fleet will to an extent ease some aspects enabling perhaps new stock to be readied more efficiently.
Given where we are now, about the only thing that I could do is be totally honest with the customers (passengers). My bank had on-line issues yesterday and said something like 'some customers may be experiencing intermittent issues'. Too bl**dy right, for THIS customer it was unusable!
Any now unavoidable service disruption needs to be overtly planned on routes affected so that those getting to and from work/school/hospital/the airport/connecting services etc. can make their own choices.
Perhaps notices are going up as I post, but I worry that GA under present management might find that one step too far.
Tonight’s fun and games on the Breckland line. Signal failure (again) 17:05 Norwich to Cambridge terminated at Attleborough and eventually sent back to Norwich (via Eccles Road x-over?) Train full with London passengers avoiding the engineering works and bus replacement on the Colchester route.
Passengers then advised to seek alternate transport, (this is rural Norfolk there’s not much alternative transport on any day let alone a winter Sunday evening!) or to speak to staff? Even GA’s website acknowledges that it is an unstaffed station with few facilities! Rail replacement buses not an easy task and turning out to be difficult to source, so the alternative offered is wait for the 22:22 (the last train) which is expected to run which get to Cambridge in time for the last train to London KX arriving just before 01:00.
I’m sure the staff on the ground are trying their best but have we reached a point on certain sections of the network (see also TPEs current debacle) where the capability to run an acceptable level of service has been lost?
Passengers then advised to seek alternate transport, (this is rural Norfolk there’s not much alternative transport on any day let alone a winter Sunday evening!) or to speak to staff? Even GA’s website acknowledges that it is an unstaffed station with few facilities! Rail replacement buses not an easy task and turning out to be difficult to source, so the alternative offered is wait for the 22:22 (the last train) which is expected to run which get to Cambridge in time for the last train to London KX arriving just before 01:00.
I’m sure the staff on the ground are trying their best but have we reached a point on certain sections of the network (see also TPEs current debacle) where the capability to run an acceptable level of service has been lost?
Additional 1K87 went to Thetford, crossed over and the points decided they'd had enough of life and wouldn't go back to allow normal running. Complete farce.
dk1
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Those points have always been a pain for reliability. One even derailed on them just before resignalling. S&T never seem close to attend either.
eastdyke
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Difficult for EMR too. IR76 81L ex Norwich, 91L leaving Thetford. Expected Nottingham around 00.49
IL16 last Lime Street - Norwich (due 23.25) appears to have been caped at Nottingham
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/C84459/2019-12-01/detailed
F Great Eastern
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Good luck tomorrow, all.
eastdyke
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To all staff and passengers I will certainly second that.
Particulary for those travelling between Ipswich and Peterborough as there is no service today as it stands. In addition there are some Wherry Line cancellations.
gingerheid
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“We’re pleased to confirm that the normal timetable will be restored at Elmswell, Dullingham and Kennett from Monday 2 December onwards, following last week’s temporary alterations. All trains scheduled to stop at these stations will be calling as usual. We apologise for the inconvenience caused to passengers during last week’s temporary service changes.”
What happened?
Have they fixed the Flirts, or are they not using them?
What happened?
Have they fixed the Flirts, or are they not using them?
Oh my. Go to the Greater Anglia website, headline bit says "Good Service" with all service areas green.
Except under that it says that Ipswich-Peterborough is suspended.
Go to Journey Check, and as of right now 27 cancellations and 19 short-forms
Except under that it says that Ipswich-Peterborough is suspended.
Go to Journey Check, and as of right now 27 cancellations and 19 short-forms
F Great Eastern
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A complete disgrace that they've not bustituted the Felixstowe Line but instead implemented mass cancellations on other lines.
all cancelled:
05:40 Colchester to Peterborough due 07:38
06:14 Lowestoft to Ipswich due 07:44
06:52 Norwich to Great Yarmouth due 07:26
07:30 Great Yarmouth to Norwich due 08:05
07:49 Peterborough to Ipswich due 09:26
08:00 Norwich to London Liverpool Street due 10:00
08:03 Ipswich to Peterborough due 09:40
08:09 Norwich to Great Yarmouth due 08:42
08:46 Great Yarmouth to Norwich due 09:19
09:50 Peterborough to Ipswich due 11:28
10:00 Ipswich to Peterborough due 11:39
10:05 Norwich to Lowestoft due 10:52
10:30 London Liverpool Street to Norwich due 12:27
10:57 Lowestoft to Norwich due 11:35
11:50 Peterborough to Ipswich due 13:28
12:01 Ipswich to Peterborough due 13:39
12:05 Norwich to Lowestoft due 12:50
12:57 Lowestoft to Norwich due 13:33
13:50 Peterborough to Ipswich due 15:28
13:58 Ipswich to Peterborough due 15:39
15:50 Peterborough to Ipswich due 17:28
16:00 Ipswich to Peterborough due 17:40
17:41 Ipswich to Peterborough due 19:39
17:50 Peterborough to Ipswich due 19:28
19:50 Peterborough to Colchester due 21:51
20:01 Ipswich to Peterborough due 21:40
21:45 Peterborough to Colchester due 23:43
Greater Anglia essentially has given up on giving a damn about their passengers, no doubt later there will be an article about how they have now rolled out new trains from Ipswich to Lowestoft and how great it is to get rid of the 153s Whilst they shaft others with no service at all.
all cancelled:
05:40 Colchester to Peterborough due 07:38
06:14 Lowestoft to Ipswich due 07:44
06:52 Norwich to Great Yarmouth due 07:26
07:30 Great Yarmouth to Norwich due 08:05
07:49 Peterborough to Ipswich due 09:26
08:00 Norwich to London Liverpool Street due 10:00
08:03 Ipswich to Peterborough due 09:40
08:09 Norwich to Great Yarmouth due 08:42
08:46 Great Yarmouth to Norwich due 09:19
09:50 Peterborough to Ipswich due 11:28
10:00 Ipswich to Peterborough due 11:39
10:05 Norwich to Lowestoft due 10:52
10:30 London Liverpool Street to Norwich due 12:27
10:57 Lowestoft to Norwich due 11:35
11:50 Peterborough to Ipswich due 13:28
12:01 Ipswich to Peterborough due 13:39
12:05 Norwich to Lowestoft due 12:50
12:57 Lowestoft to Norwich due 13:33
13:50 Peterborough to Ipswich due 15:28
13:58 Ipswich to Peterborough due 15:39
15:50 Peterborough to Ipswich due 17:28
16:00 Ipswich to Peterborough due 17:40
17:41 Ipswich to Peterborough due 19:39
17:50 Peterborough to Ipswich due 19:28
19:50 Peterborough to Colchester due 21:51
20:01 Ipswich to Peterborough due 21:40
21:45 Peterborough to Colchester due 23:43
Greater Anglia essentially has given up on giving a damn about their passengers, no doubt later there will be an article about how they have now rolled out new trains from Ipswich to Lowestoft and how great it is to get rid of the 153s Whilst they shaft others with no service at all.
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gingerheid
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The 0654 Ipswich to Cambridge 755 appears to be in the process of disgracing itself at Elmswell.
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