Northern Unit Refurbishments

Mathew S · 30 Nov 2019

156420 said:
Newton Heath are losing some of their 156’s (there will just be 16 officially based there) with 13 working diagrams. So some will be transferring to Heaton.

Thanks. That's a shame, I've always preferred the 156s to 150s. Ah well.

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JModulo · 30 Nov 2019

The Northern Star said:
150269 returning home on Saturday...

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Cancelled at Kirkconnel. Train declared a failure.

superkev · 30 Nov 2019

JModulo said:
Cancelled at Kirkconnel. Train declared a failure.

Kilmarnock dont seem to have a lot of success with sending trains south. Diddnt it take several attempts with the last one.
K

JModulo · 30 Nov 2019

superkev said:
Kilmarnock dont seem to have a lot of success with sending trains south. Diddnt it take several attempts with the last one.
K

4 or 5. The Scotrail service 3 hours behind it has been cancelled and gone to rescue it.

CJ · 30 Nov 2019

Looks like a Class 150/156 made it's way to Newton Heath from Crewe LNWR today:
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K03930/2019-11-30/detailed

Also looks like a unit went the other way as well:
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K03931/2019-11-30/detailed

geoffk · 30 Nov 2019

My understanding is that some of Northern's 150s will be reformed into three car sets by adding a single car from a 150/2. Not sure how many or indeed if this is still planned.

Geeves · 1 Dec 2019

The Heaton 156 reallocated units are basically filling for the the go anywhere 142s that are now being retired. I don't think the everyday user will notice much difference.

superkev · 1 Dec 2019

CJ said:
Looks like a Class 150/156 made it's way to Newton Heath from Crewe LNWR today:
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K03930/2019-11-30/detailed

Also looks like a unit went the other way as well:
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K03931/2019-11-30/detailed

Anyone know unit numbers?
Thanks.
K

yorksrob · 1 Dec 2019

I was on a 156 out West yesterday and was pleased to note that the existing seats had been re-upholstered in moquette, rather than replaced. This is certainly a welcome development.

superkev · 1 Dec 2019

The Northern Star said:
150269 returning home on Saturday.

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150 269 Wabteck Kilmarnock to NH Sat 30th Nov shown on RTT as only reaching Carlisle.
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K05522/2019-11-30/detailed
Is it still there?
K

jonesy3001 · 1 Dec 2019

could be 268 going up as it's the last of the porterbrook 150/2s to be done;

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K62232/2019-12-01/detailed

superkev · 1 Dec 2019

jonesy3001 said:
could be 268 going up as it's the last of the porterbrook 150/2s to be done;

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K62232/2019-12-01/detailed

Looks likely.
I have poterbook 150 228 as at Wabteck Kilmarnock Has it been done and did 269 eventually make it from Kilm to NH yesterday.
K

northernchris · 1 Dec 2019

jonesy3001 said:
could be 268 going up as it's the last of the porterbrook 150/2s to be done;

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K62232/2019-12-01/detailed

150268 is in service today, saw it earlier in Leeds

Adam0984 · 1 Dec 2019

superkev said:
159 269 Wabteck Kilmarnock to NH Sat 30th Nov shown on RTT as only reaching Carlisle.
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K05522/2019-11-30/detailed
Is it still there?
K

It’s been dumped in the sidings south of the station saw it there at 15:00 this afternoon

JModulo · 1 Dec 2019

superkev said:
159 269 Wabteck Kilmarnock to NH Sat 30th Nov shown on RTT as only reaching Carlisle.
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K05522/2019-11-30/detailed
Is it still there?
K

Shoved to Carlisle and dumped there by Scotrail 156456.

AmateurRambler · 2 Dec 2019

geoffk said:
My understanding is that some of Northern's 150s will be reformed into three car sets by adding a single car from a 150/2. Not sure how many or indeed if this is still planned.

Most recent plans where to form just two three car 150s in this way (which would be joined by the two three car 150/0s from GWR). More recent whispers suggest even this may not now happen.

sd0733 · 2 Dec 2019

150105 has had PRM mods and also new seat covers but very little else done

superkev · 2 Dec 2019

AmateurRambler said:
Most recent plans where to form just two three car 150s in this way (which would be joined by the two three car 150/0s from GWR). More recent whispers suggest even this may not now happen.

I suppose is raises again the question of whats happening with 2 car 150 209 running around without toilets. Split it to form 2 x 3 cars was always the thought.
K

Ant158 · 2 Dec 2019

sd0733 said:
150105 has had PRM mods and also new seat covers but very little else done
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Including any form of floor cleaning by the looks of things!

Karl · 2 Dec 2019

sd0733 said:
150105 has had PRM mods and also new seat covers but very little else done
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That doesn't look very inviting. What a dirty looking environment. The new covers aren't even properly covered. Is it moquette? I can't tell. 'Could do better. See me!' x

Jamesrob637 · 2 Dec 2019

sd0733 said:
150105 has had PRM mods and also new seat covers but very little else done
View attachment 71057

Including not having been repainted from London Midland livery - it plus a 156 were on the 21:00 Piccadilly to Crewe on Saturday night

sd0733 · 2 Dec 2019

Jamesrob637 said:
Including not having been repainted from London Midland livery - it plus a 156 were on the 21:00 Piccadilly to Crewe on Saturday night

Yes still in LM with the big white patch over the name. Still paired with a 156 on vice EMU diagram on the Hazel Grove to Blackpools.

sd0733 · 2 Dec 2019

Karl said:
That doesn't look very inviting. What a dirty looking environment. The new covers aren't even properly covered. Is it moquette? I can't tell. 'Could do better. See me!' x

It smells nice and new but an awful clash of colours and filth. Shame as when they arrived they were ok.
Yes it's all moquette on that one.

4REP · 4 Dec 2019

Mathew S said:
Thanks. That's a shame, I've always preferred the 156s to 150s. Ah well.

the 156 stock are replacing the heaton allocation of 142's as from the december timetable change there will be no more 142's in the north east area

JakeMurphy · 4 Dec 2019

150225 is back out and about

Mathew S · 4 Dec 2019

4REP said:
the 156 stock are replacing the heaton allocation of 142's as from the december timetable change there will be no more 142's in the north east area

Yeah, I get that. However, for those in the Manchester area who have had those said 156s previously, reality will now be 150s, or worse.

superkev · 4 Dec 2019

JakeMurphy said:
150225 is back out and about

As it's been at Wabtech Doncaster its presumably just had PRM mods and repaint and is awaiting its trip to Arriva traincare at Crewe for interior refresh.
I have now just 4 150/1's and 10 150/2's to PRM with 6 in various works.
K

superkev · 4 Dec 2019

I notice 507021's most usefull blog has just had its monthly update. Thanks to 507021.
See
https://merseyrailpep507.blogspot.com/
K

northernchris · 4 Dec 2019

Mathew S said:
Yeah, I get that. However, for those in the Manchester area who have had those said 156s previously, reality will now be 150s, or worse.

Unless the 156s work diagrams in the North West and Yorkshire like the Heaton 142s do at present

jonesy3001 · 4 Dec 2019

superkev said:
As it's been at Wabtech Doncaster its presumably just had PRM mods and repaint and is awaiting its trip to Arriva traincare at Crewe for interior refresh.
I have now just 4 150/1's and 10 150/2's to PRM with 6 in various works.
K

Are northern going to get them done by the end of the year or will they get an extension.

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