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Argyle Line - 40 Years On

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It is hard to believe that tomorrow marks 40 years to the day that the Argyle Line opened to passenger traffic, and thus links the electrified North Clyde Line with the rest of Glasgow electrified lines south of the Clyde (and beyond) for the first time.

The Argyle Line had been part of Glasgow Central Railway which opened in 1886 and was part of the Caledonian Railway. It had been closed under the Beeching Axe in October 1964.

Lanark to Glasgow Central, and Hamilton Circle services via Hamilton Central, Motherwell and Bellshill were extended to Dalmuir and Milngavie on the North Clyde Line, via the newly opened Glasgow Central Low Level station which formed the 'Argyle Line'.

As part of the Argyle Line project, an additional platform at Dalmuir (Platform 5) was constructed. Rutherglen platforms were relocated, while Bridgeton Central station was closed and moved to the former Caledonian Railway site.

Only two entirely new stations were opened: Argyle Street and Finnieston (renamed to Exhibition Centre in 1986 to serve the newly opened SECC, now Scottish Event Campus).

Partick Hill and Glasgow Subway's Merkland Street stations were relocated to the new Partick Interchange Station which opened a month later.

To coincide with the opening of the Argyle Line, 16 Class 314 units were introduced for the new service, as well as a number of the older Class 303 "Blue Train" sets.

The opening of the Argyle Line, together with the modernised Glasgow Subway which opened five months later, allowed Greater Glasgow PTE to be renamed TransClyde (now SPT).

The Argyle Line services have been extended a number of times since 1979: to Coatbridge Central in the 1980s, to Larkhall in December 2005, and to Cumbernauld and Whifflet in December 2014, during this point trains from Lanark were diverted to Glasgow Central High Level.

The Argyle Line only had one major closure during its 40 year career: In December 1994, the Argyle Line was flooded as a result of River Kelvin bursting its banks in torrential rain, drowning units 314208 and 314212, and the line was closed for repairs for nine months. During this time Argyle Line services were diverted via Glasgow Queen Street Low Level and Coatbridge Spur.

Forty years on, Class 318 and 320 units now operate the Argyle Line services, as well as the occasional Class 334 appearing. Lanark to Glasgow Central High Level are now in the hands of Class 385 units.

But as for the Class 314 units, which 40 years ago just entered service on the North Clyde Line and (then new) Argyle Line, they will be withdrawn soon, with 7 units already being scrapped.

Happy 40th Anniversary to the Argyle Line!
 
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It is hard to believe that tomorrow marks 40 years to the day that the Argyle Line opened to passenger traffic, and thus links the electrified North Clyde Line with the rest of Glasgow electrified lines south of the Clyde (and beyond) for the first time.

The Argyle Line had been part of Glasgow Central Railway which opened in 1886 and was part of the Caledonian Railway. It had been closed under the Beeching Axe in October 1964.

Lanark to Glasgow Central, and Hamilton Circle services via Hamilton Central, Motherwell and Bellshill were extended to Dalmuir and Milngavie on the North Clyde Line, via the newly opened Glasgow Central Low Level station which formed the 'Argyle Line'.

As part of the Argyle Line project, an additional platform at Dalmuir (Platform 5) was constructed. Rutherglen platforms were relocated, while Bridgeton Central station was closed and moved to the former Caledonian Railway site.

Only two entirely new stations were opened: Argyle Street and Finnieston (renamed to Exhibition Centre in 1986 to serve the newly opened SECC, now Scottish Event Campus).

Partick Hill and Glasgow Subway's Merkland Street stations were relocated to the new Partick Interchange Station which opened a month later.

To coincide with the opening of the Argyle Line, 16 Class 314 units were introduced for the new service, as well as a number of the older Class 303 "Blue Train" sets.

The opening of the Argyle Line, together with the modernised Glasgow Subway which opened five months later, allowed Greater Glasgow PTE to be renamed TransClyde (now SPT).

The Argyle Line services have been extended a number of times since 1979: to Coatbridge Central in the 1980s, to Larkhall in December 2005, and to Cumbernauld and Whifflet in December 2014, during this point trains from Lanark were diverted to Glasgow Central High Level.

The Argyle Line only had one major closure during its 40 year career: In December 1994, the Argyle Line was flooded as a result of River Kelvin bursting its banks in torrential rain, drowning units 314208 and 314212, and the line was closed for repairs for nine months. During this time Argyle Line services were diverted via Glasgow Queen Street Low Level and Coatbridge Spur.

Forty years on, Class 318 and 320 units now operate the Argyle Line services, as well as the occasional Class 334 appearing. Lanark to Glasgow Central High Level are now in the hands of Class 385 units.

But as for the Class 314 units, which 40 years ago just entered service on the North Clyde Line and (then new) Argyle Line, they will be withdrawn soon, with 7 units already being scrapped.

Happy 40th Anniversary to the Argyle Line!

Hadn't realised it was it's anniversary tomorrow! I've used the line many times and it's a very handy and useful link, kudos to BR for sensibly re-opening it.
 

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Hadn't realised it was it's anniversary tomorrow! I've used the line many times and it's a very handy and useful link, kudos to BR for sensibly re-opening it.
I also send best wishes!

However, the absence of an effective strategic transport authority for the Glasgow region means we have not moved forward from that bold move in 1979. I would have expected UK's second-largest urban rail network to have morphed into a metro system incorporating the heavy-rail lines
 

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However, the absence of an effective strategic transport authority for the Glasgow region means we have not moved forward from that bold move in 1979. I would have expected UK's second-largest urban rail network to have morphed into a metro system incorporating the heavy-rail lines

There has at least been a few re-openings, some increases in train frequency and more modern, faster trains.

How exactly would the Glasgow suburban network become more of a metro? Turn-up-and-go frequencies with more Tube stock-esque high-capacity trains rather than heavy rail outer-suburban stock?
 

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There has at least been a few re-openings, some increases in train frequency and more modern, faster trains.

How exactly would the Glasgow suburban network become more of a metro? Turn-up-and-go frequencies with more Tube stock-esque high-capacity trains rather than heavy rail outer-suburban stock?
It's not just about rail.

The Get Glasgow Moving campaign promotes a coordinated approach. First Bus profit-driven approach is not sustainable. Lots of discussion at the Glasgow Connectivity Commission
 

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40 years ago - doesn't time fly! o_O

Interesting to note that its introduction in November would have meant a substantial timetable change away from the (as was then) normal month of May.

In December 1994, the Argyle Line was flooded as a result of River Kelvin bursting its banks in torrential rain, drowning units 314208 and 314212, and the line was closed for repairs for nine months.

Which was in the early months of the short life of "Railtrack" - was god sending a message I wonder? ;)
 

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When did the last 314 operate in passenger service through GLasgow Central Low Level?
 

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When did the last 314 operate in passenger service through GLasgow Central Low Level?

https://scottishtrains.zenfolio.com/class-314

A major cascade of rolling stock took place in October 1999 with the 314’s transferring from the Argyle line, where they had spent almost their entire working lives to that point, to the Cathcart Circle / Newton and Neilston lines. The elderly class 303’s, which had been working those lines since 1962, still continued to operate some peak time services on the Circle and to Gourock and Weymss Bay but had mostly transferred to the Argyle line to replace the 314’s there.

https://archive.ph/20190125171032/https://scottishtrains.zenfolio.com/class-314

Also:

https://scottishtrains.zenfolio.com/class-314

In preparation for the introduction of the class 334's, a major cascade of rolling stock took place in October 1999 with the 314’s transferring from the Argyle line, where they had spent almost their entire working lives to that point, to the Cathcart Circle / Newton and Neilston lines.
 
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Despite having travelled on this line on several occasions (since the early 90s), until I read this thread, I'd no idea that this line and Glasgow Central LL didn't open until 1979. Clearly I need to read up on a bit of history of the Strathclyde PTE network! I assume the line from Glasgow QS Low Level to Partick was a through line before then? I have vague memories of one of the 314s (314205?) being on display at the NRM before it was delivered.
 

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https://www.amazon.co.uk/Illustrate...&qid=1573165369&sprefix=railways+of+gl&sr=8-9 - this book is worth reading, it explains the origins of all the local lines around the city. In short, the current Argyle line used to continue beyond Exhibition Centre, over the Kelvin around Yorkhill and along the riverside on what’s now a cycle track. There’s a branch from near Exhibition Centre that used to head north via Kelvinbridge Underground and a subsurface station at the Botanic Gardens. You should be able to make all of this out using the satellite pictures on Google Maps if you look closely
 

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There's an interesting film that covers the rebuilding of the Argyle Line on YouTube:

 

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When eastbound Argyle line trains from Partick leave the Queen Street route they drop down and use the old tunnel to pass underneath. That's why the two platforms at Exhibition Centre are at an angle.
 

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https://www.amazon.co.uk/Illustrate...&qid=1573165369&sprefix=railways+of+gl&sr=8-9 - this book is worth reading, it explains the origins of all the local lines around the city. In short, the current Argyle line used to continue beyond Exhibition Centre, over the Kelvin around Yorkhill and along the riverside on what’s now a cycle track. There’s a branch from near Exhibition Centre that used to head north via Kelvinbridge Underground and a subsurface station at the Botanic Gardens. You should be able to make all of this out using the satellite pictures on Google Maps if you look closely

Thanks, I may have to obtain a copy. I also came across this book on Amazon https://www.amazon.co.uk/Between-Lines-history-railways-Glasgow/dp/1530049296 although I'm not sure it has any maps which some reviewers have mentioned as a plus point of the book you mentioned.
 

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Despite having travelled on this line on several occasions (since the early 90s), until I read this thread, I'd no idea that this line and Glasgow Central LL didn't open until 1979.

I will have to be pedantic here and say "re-open"! :D
 
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When eastbound Argyle line trains from Partick leave the Queen Street route they drop down and use the old tunnel to pass underneath. That's why the two platforms at Exhibition Centre are at an angle.
IIRC, the tunnel mouth originally had two platforms, but hasn't since reopening. Within the tunnel, there are branches up towards Kelvinbridge (and thence Botanic Gardens and Maryhill), which is where the 1994 flood came from, and a new branch in the tunnel (from the reopening) where the line continued onto the Lanarkshire & Dumbartonshire Railway heading to Kelvinhall, as well as the current link to the (originally) North British Railway line to Partick.
 

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I also send best wishes!

However, the absence of an effective strategic transport authority for the Glasgow region means we have not moved forward from that bold move in 1979. I would have expected UK's second-largest urban rail network to have morphed into a metro system incorporating the heavy-rail lines
I think a lot of people over the years said, if anything, Strathclyde PTE was too focussed on the Glasgow area rather than its wider geography.
 

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Visiting Glasgow and travelling on the Subway, Argyle Line and Blue Train line (as that film called it which made me laugh) makes me realise how poor the public transport network is in Leeds. I love visiting the west end and have the choice of Subway or heavy rail to Partick. I’m sure many people could tell me the faults with the public transport system in Glasgow (no doubt the many private firms trying to compete instead of compliment each other) but it must be said that getting around is so easy.

We in Leeds and the wider West Yorkshire region really are the poor relations when it comes to public transport in the major conurbations across Europe. The largest city in Europe without a light rail system and yet its one of the fastest growing cities thanks in the main to the huge redevelopment of the South Bank. The largest financial centre in the UK outside London and what have we got, a poor rail network and loads of buses on majorly congested roads. If you want to get from one side of the city to the other it means either bus, taxi or walk (I’m happy to walk but certainly not use a bus or taxi).

Supertram would have solved much of that inner city connectivity and if other systems are to go by then it would probably be going through an expansion now.

By the way that film was really enjoyable and shows that in the 1970’s it was about making life easier and more pleasant for people. Look at the contrast in the Subway stations before and after the modernisation. Apart from some window dressing to make the stations more modern looking the crux of it still exists and is more than fit for purpose.
 

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If it’s the thread I’m thinking of it comes with a warning - once you start reading you won’t be able to stop! A truly excellent read.

Yeah it's the one. Possibly the greatest railway thread ever made!
 
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It was 25 years ago yesterday that a six-car Class 314 set (314208 and 314212) were drowned at Glasgow Central Low Level after River Kelvin burst its banks.
Both units were damaged and were out of service for repairs, and the Argyle Line was closed for 9 months as repairs were carried out.

It was featured on Scotland Today news bulletin (now STV News) on YouTube video below:
 
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