Class 314 Withdrawals

AlistairCowell · 12 Dec 2019

Ayr Station Hotel building is still in the right state of flux

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Sprinter156 · 12 Dec 2019

Pretty sure it has over 1000 structural issues or something like that.

sdrennan · 12 Dec 2019

Can someone confirm if the last passenger service (Not the Tour ) is the final train to Paisley Canal on Saturday.
Definitely want to do this if I can arrange and can be sure it is correct.

hexagon789 · 12 Dec 2019

380101 said:
Being a bit generous with Ayr! Some grotty portaloos out in the carpark 200yrds from the platforms is all there is nowadays!

Sorry, I forgot the issues with the hotel means they can't use the proper ones.

JumpinTrainz · 13 Dec 2019

380101 said:
It's a disaster! Been no movement really on anything for almost a year now. Structural survey was pretty grim and to make the building safe is estimated at £10million (note to refurbish it and bring back into use would be alot more ontop of the £10mil to make safe).

Staff are currently enduring another winter of having to work out of cramped portacabins and platform staff are out in all weathers with little to no shelter, as are passengers waiting on trains. Transport Scotland, Network Rail and ScotRail are basically sitting on their hands along with the council and failing passengers and staff! If it had been in Glasgow or Edinburgh it would have been sorted long ago!

Sounds like they’re needing to get off their arse and start this process. Ayr is a busy station and the GLC-AYR is a busy service. They could probably build a really modern station out of Ayr if they could demolish the old hotel building and try something completely new to freshen it up for sure.

computerSaysNo · 13 Dec 2019

This is a bit of a random question but does anyone know if it is possible, or would be possible, to get a hold of a destination blind from a Class 314 before they are all scrapped? Thanks!

youngac · 13 Dec 2019

sdrennan said:
Can someone confirm if the last passenger service (Not the Tour ) is the final train to Paisley Canal on Saturday.
Definitely want to do this if I can arrange and can be sure it is correct.

Last service should be the 2312 Glasgow Central - Paisley Canal tomorrow

hexagon789 · 13 Dec 2019

GregA said:
This is a bit of a random question but does anyone know if it is possible, or would be possible, to get a hold of a destination blind from a Class 314 before they are all scrapped? Thanks!

Generally the scrap merchants are prohibited from selling parts of the trains they scrap, so I'd say it's unlikely but if you don't ask, you don't get.

youngac · 13 Dec 2019

202, 205 and 216 are the penultimate daytime service units.

computerSaysNo · 13 Dec 2019

hexagon789 said:
Generally the scrap merchants are prohibited from selling parts of the trains they scrap, so I'd say it's unlikely but if you don't ask, you don't get.

Who would I go about asking? Would I be better asking the rolling stock owner (Angel?) or ScotRail or someone else? Thanks!

GLC · 13 Dec 2019

GregA said:
Who would I go about asking? Would I be better asking the rolling stock owner (Angel?) or ScotRail or someone else? Thanks!

Scotrail own the 314s outright now so I wouldn’t bother with Angel

computerSaysNo · 13 Dec 2019

GLC said:
Scotrail own the 314s outright now so I wouldn’t bother with Angel

Ah okay, thanks.

hexagon789 · 13 Dec 2019

GregA said:
Who would I go about asking? Would I be better asking the rolling stock owner (Angel?) or ScotRail or someone else? Thanks!

ScotRail themselves, there would be likely no point asking the scrap merchants

433N · 13 Dec 2019

youngac said:
202, 205 and 216 are the penultimate daytime service units.

... and I managed to fit in a last ride on 2 of them. Sad to see them go.

Interesting how it was 3 x SPT-liveried ones.

Fleetwood Boy · 13 Dec 2019

youngac said:
202, 205 and 216 are the penultimate daytime service units.

Here’s 216 after what I guess will be it’s last trip to Gourock.

Fleetwood Boy · 13 Dec 2019

hexagon789 · 13 Dec 2019

Seems in fairly decent nick, one for the tour next week maybe?

Fleetwood Boy · 13 Dec 2019

hexagon789 said:
Seems in fairly decent nick, one for the tour next week maybe?

I was actually thinking that myself when I was on it this morning. In fairness to ScotRail they’ve kept them really presentable. I had been hoping for my favourite 205 as my last ride but looks like it will turn out to be 216 unless there’s problems on Monday.

hexagon789 · 13 Dec 2019

Fleetwood Boy said:
I was actually thinking that myself when I was on it this morning. In fairness to ScotRail they’ve kept them really presentable. I had been hoping for my favourite 205 as my last ride but looks like it will turn out to be 216 unless there’s problems on Monday.

205 was one of the worst, certainly externally, but overall the fleet has been kept quite tidy.

prod_pep · 13 Dec 2019

I have to say 314205 is a good runner. It's probably between that and 314210 as the best ones left in my opinion. However, 205's exterior is more than a little ugly just now.

hexagon789 · 13 Dec 2019

prod_pep said:
I have to say 314205 is a good runner. It's probably between that and 314210 as the best ones left in my opinion. However, 205's exterior is more than a little ugly just now.

I know a while back it was stated that some units had one or more traction motors isolated, perhaps '205 is still on all motors?

youngac · 13 Dec 2019

At least one of the remaining units will probably have been withdrawn since only 3 will be required tomorrow and 1/2 for the farewell on Wednesday.

433N · 13 Dec 2019

205 seemed to be running with a bit of a wheelflat this morning and sounded a little clunky.

216 sounded much healthier.

hexagon789 · 13 Dec 2019

youngac said:
At least one of the remaining units will probably have been withdrawn since only 3 will be required tomorrow and 1/2 for the farewell on Wednesday.

Hoping a double for Wednesday

prod_pep · 13 Dec 2019

Yep, ScotRail have said it will be a double on Wednesday which will probably be needed. I think 314210 and 314216 would make a decent pairing for the last journeys.

JumpinTrainz · 13 Dec 2019

Feels bizarre that this is pretty much it. This time next week the 314s will be gone after just over 40 years of service.

Ewan M · 14 Dec 2019

So this is it. Today’s the last day of the 314s in passenger service! I’m currently en-route to Central Station to catch them so any info is much appreciated

JModulo · 14 Dec 2019

Scotrail tweeting saying that the last service will be the 1705 Paisley Canal to Central.

hexagon789 · 14 Dec 2019

JumpinTrainz said:
Feels bizarre that this is pretty much it. This time next week the 314s will be gone after just over 40 years of service.

40 years is generally said to be the book life of EMUs so I think BR and ScotRail have had their money's worth!

Ewan M · 14 Dec 2019

JModulo said:
Scotrail tweeting saying that the last service will be the 1705 Paisley Canal to Central.

314210 is doing the Canal runs atm

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