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Is it possible another 4 car 331 will have to be ordered?
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Northern 333 refurbishments
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Last I heard on WNXX about 009 is that it will take approximately 9 months to complete
superkev
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9 months work is probably serious money on a 20 year old unit so if they can strike a good deal with CAF more 331s perhaps.
Also in the past where stock has been late entering service they have offered as compensation extra units free or at knock down prices. Just a thought.
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I still think 009 will still return next year and if not then I guess we can say it's been scrapped (im giving it until July/August)
superkev
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Dont forget the 332s where withdrawn for a time with similar structural problems and I believe are worn out.
My monies on 16 more 331s which would give Northern a slightly more standardised fleet.
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trainmananthon
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Hearing that 333016 is suffering from similar issues which may be terminal. Happy to be corrected though
Bantamzen
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This all sounds a little worrying, if there are serious problems with the 333s then West Yorkshire is going to need to call on some more North West based 331s pretty sharpish.
The bodies aren’t the problem.
oscarthecat92
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If they end up ordering an extra 16 331s hopefully they'll be specified with a more appropriate seating layout, the 4 car 331 represents a significant seating reduction on a 4 car 333 due to the number of tables.
superkev
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I quite like the tables for laptops etc. Dont forget the Aire valley peaks are supposed to be 6 cars but still waiting for Network snail with the glacial progress with platform zero at Leeds.
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To be honest at this point in time I'd be grateful for any train, my morning commute 0730 Skipton to Leeds is cancelled 2/3 times per working week due to the shortage of units
ohgoditsjames
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Granted that the above post's make for a worrying read and wont be Northerns priority for concerns...
I forgot to take note of the unit number but on my travels from Shipley to Leeds a few days ago one of the refurbished units had a seat missing all of it's cushions, leaving only a bare metal support structure!
Hope the 333's don't end up sharing an ill fate, using them twice a day the 333's are my favourite commuting train (other than how busy they get!
) In a weird sense it's nice to have our own unique trains and not be the same as the rest of Northerns electric network. 
I forgot to take note of the unit number but on my travels from Shipley to Leeds a few days ago one of the refurbished units had a seat missing all of it's cushions, leaving only a bare metal support structure!
Hope the 333's don't end up sharing an ill fate, using them twice a day the 333's are my favourite commuting train (other than how busy they get!
) In a weird sense it's nice to have our own unique trains and not be the same as the rest of Northerns electric network.
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superkev
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Paths between Neville Hill and Holbeck Saturday 14th Dec.
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K05205/2019-12-14/detailed
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K05205/2019-12-14/detailed
Probably 333 004 returning after interior refresh. 005, 006, 007, 016 still to do.
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https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K05205/2019-12-14/detailed
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K05205/2019-12-14/detailed
Probably 333 004 returning after interior refresh. 005, 006, 007, 016 still to do.
K
Althoigh could that be service booked for or 32X or 331 rather than a 333
As mentioned previously there is a shortage of units due to refurbishment or in 009’s case being kaput. You can’t just pluck a unit from elsewhere as that would cancel another service, probably on a route with far less peak trains than Skipton - Leeds.
oscarthecat92
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If they know 333009 is kaput, surely they can bring the 321/322 that is stored at Heaton back out?
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It depends on if it's been returned to the ROSCO.
It is in warm store but as the unit has been swapped recently I suspect it may be due for an exam. It’s not as simple as people think to just drag another unit out.
superkev
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There are reportedly 3 x 333s out of use (may be more). One at Skipton, one at Holbeck and one at the railway technical centre leaving 13.
The continued use of 321,2s may also be down to either, still some crews to train on 331s or most likely most of the 4 car 331s are in use around Manchester.
May be resolved when and if Network snail finish Leeds Platform 0 and some 3 car 331s can be taken out of store for the promised 6 car service.
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333004 currently working its way back to Neville Hill
Bantamzen
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P0 at Leeds isn't scheduled to come into operation until 2021 as I understand it. The blockade over Christmas is part of the works to enable this to be built.
I think the 170 part needs to be mentioned in The Northern Unit Refurbishments thread
Ah yes. When I posted, I actually thought I was in the Northern Unit Refurbishments thread
Thats okAh yes. When I posted, I actually thought I was in the Northern Unit Refurbishments thread
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