Class 442s - Now at the end of the road and to be withdrawn permanently

daveshah · 3 Dec 2019

Thumper1127 said:
It didn’t run as far as I can see.

Now showing as cancelled on RTT with code TG (no driver).

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theironroad · 3 Dec 2019

daveshah said:
Now showing as cancelled on RTT with code TG (no driver).

I'd imagine the return 1848 working will be to unless they find a spare driver and another suitably qualified driver to lead the operation and run it up to and back from Bournemouth to London this afternoon.

Looks like a better chance it will run tomorrow.

daveshah · 3 Dec 2019

Looks like something might be happening today https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/O65753/2019-12-03/detailed

swt_passenger · 3 Dec 2019

daveshah said:
Looks like something might be happening today https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/O65753/2019-12-03/detailed

Presumably returns as https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/O65276/2019-12-03/detailed at 1848. Perhaps they’re a bit more confident about signal interference if running up in the peak and returning straightaway, IIRC it’s usually been booked into Clapham Yard all day.

Train Boy · 3 Dec 2019

1B95 has departed Waterloo 15 late. Not sure if it is actually 442s, highly doubt it...

daveshah · 3 Dec 2019

Imagine it's more likely they're using the path for an extra service with a spare 444 and guard...

Train Boy · 3 Dec 2019

daveshah said:
Imagine it's more likely they're using the path for an extra service with a spare 444 and guard...

That's what I'm thinking as well.

molecrochip · 3 Dec 2019

RTTs currently showing it working 1B95 to Bournemouth, departing 15 late at 1903.

swt_passenger · 3 Dec 2019

molecrochip said:
RTTs currently showing it working 1B95 to Bournemouth, departing 15 late at 1903.

So was the up ECS move not a 442 in the first place?

Train Boy · 3 Dec 2019

swt_passenger said:
So was the up ECS move not a 442 in the first place?

As they have very recently still ran with 5Qxx, I would doubt that 5B95/1B95 would be 442.

swt_passenger · 3 Dec 2019

Train Boy said:
As they have very recently still ran with 5Qxx, I would doubt that 5B95/1B95 would be 442.

Sounds right. A bit carried away by post #4382 then...

Train Boy · 3 Dec 2019

swt_passenger said:
Sounds right. A bit carried away by post #4382 then...

Must admit, you're not the only one! :lol:

Thumper1127 · 4 Dec 2019

5Q88 is running up this morning.

aliceh · 4 Dec 2019

5Q95 also running this evening, consisting of 2413 and (i think) 2410

spark001uk · 6 Dec 2019

5Q88 and 5Q95 ran today, and from the looks of RTT they appear to have passed through Earlsfield and Millbrook without delay, which looks promising perhaps?

daveshah · 6 Dec 2019

5Q30 and 5Q31 between Fratton and Bournemouth also appear to have run today on RTT without delay at Millbrook, and I guess these were 442s also?

steveo43 · 6 Dec 2019

Eveing all, I can confirm that it was a ten car 442 had definitely run this evening as I see it passing through Woking. Unfortunately I didn't manage to see what the units were, as I was helping a customer at the time.

PudseyBearHST · 16 Dec 2019

Hello,

I’ve not been following this thread so apologies if this is a silly question but are there any current weekday class 442 diagrams in passenger service?

Regards,

Pudsey Bear

Thumper1127 · 16 Dec 2019

Hi. No, not at present but there are crew training runs this week again from Fratton to Bournemouth and return.

daveshah · 16 Dec 2019

PudseyBearHST said:
Hello,

I’ve not been following this thread so apologies if this is a silly question but are there any current weekday class 442 diagrams in passenger service?

Regards,

Pudsey Bear

Nope, regardless of any ongoing 442 issues, the strike means that the 444s are more than sufficient stock wise (and contingency guards aren't trained on the 442s). There have been fairly '5Q' regular test runs though, so pure speculation but they might return to passenger service shortly after the end of the strike.

PudseyBearHST · 16 Dec 2019

Thanks a lot to you both.

spark001uk · 16 Dec 2019

Does anyone know if the latest test runs up to London were successful at all?

daveshah · 16 Dec 2019

Suspect might just mean someone hasn't overriden the timetable yet, but I notice that advance tickets are available on a 442 service (1848 from Waterloo) from 6th January onwards.

Graham H · 16 Dec 2019

5Q31 just left Brockenhurst for Fratton. Was cancelled at Brock earlier but was supposed to have gone to Bournemouth, Possibly a 442 set on training ?

Doomotron · 16 Dec 2019

Have any trains had the new equipment fitted or are they going to be running in their original state for the foreseeable future?

spark001uk · 16 Dec 2019

Doomotron said:
Have any trains had the new equipment fitted or are they going to be running in their original state for the foreseeable future?

As far as I know only one unit has had ac traction package fitted, and that will require a lot of testing before being accepted into service I should imagine.
As for the other units, there are apparently some that have had modifications to their static converters, though we're yet to hear if that has been successful in fixing the signal tripping issue.

pompeyfan · 16 Dec 2019

Believe there is 1, possibly 2 units that are now AC traction as well as self proving brakes.

5Q88 ran up to London this morning and is currently in Clapham yard.

Train Boy · 16 Dec 2019

2419 has the new motors and is at Bournemouth.
2402 is having the new motors installed and is at Eastleigh.

2403, 2408, 2410, 2413, 2417 & 2420 have been out over the last few weeks on tests with modified static converters. No sign of 2406 or 2414 which also entered passenger service.

For the record, 2415 and 2422 are also at Eastleigh.

theironroad · 16 Dec 2019

Train Boy said:
2419 has the new motors and is at Bournemouth.
2402 is having the new motors installed and is at Eastleigh.

2403, 2408, 2410, 2413, 2417 & 2420 have been out over the last few weeks on tests with modified static converters. No sign of 2406 or 2414 which also entered passenger service.

For the record, 2415 and 2422 are also at Eastleigh.

How many units do swr have now? I know initially they took 18, can't remember what happend to the other 6 that the open access operator had planned to use before their bid failed.

Train Boy · 16 Dec 2019

theironroad said:
How many units do swr have now? I know initially they took 18, can't remember what happend to the other 6 that the open access operator had planned to use before their bid failed.

Remains at 18.

01, 05, 07, 12, 21 and 24 are the remaining 6 units. 2405 is being stripped for spares, with 2424 next on the list for that.

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