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Lockerbie Changes

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Kirkcudbright

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I wonder if anyone can explain the changes in ticket prices from Lockerbie from January 2019. Up till now the 8.32 to Edinburgh accepted off peak return tickets. Now that has been changed leading to a large increase in fares for a day return. (over 30%) I wonder who makes this decision and how? To add insult to injury the next train at 10.30 (used to be 9.56) has now had the Lockerbie stop withdrawn meaning there is no choice when going to Edinburgh for a day. Given how large the market is from Dumfries and Galloway, I imagine this will lead to a large increase in revenue but as MPs and MSPs know great customer dis-satisfaction.
 
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Looks like TPE fixing the illogical structure that exists currently.

Off Peak Day Return currently code H2, no time restriction just not valid on the Jacobite (!), changed to I1, valid after 0930.
Off Peak Return currently 8F, valid after 0915, changed to TP, valid after 0815.
 

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Looks like TPE fixing the illogical structure that exists currently.

Off Peak Day Return currently code H2, no time restriction just not valid on the Jacobite (!), changed to I1, valid after 0930.
Off Peak Return currently 8F, valid after 0915, changed to TP, valid after 0815.
It's not exactly illogical. The "counterintuitive" situation of period returns having more restrictions than a day return makes sense when you consider the paucity of the Lockerbie-Edinburgh service, which means that the new I2 restriction significantly reduces the length of a day trip you can have. If you're travelling on a period return you can afford to be slightly more limited in terms of the trains you can take. That's certainly the way a lot of restrictions work in London and the southeast.

It's simply yet another example of beleaguered TPE increasing restrictions, as they have been wont to do over the last 2 or 3 years, to make extra cash because they know they have a captive market in many places (fancy driving from Manchester to Sheffield or Leeds at rush hour?). It's an easy way for them to plug the gap between the revenue they're making (which is less than they predicted) and the increasing franchise premiums (or is it a decreasing subsidy) they signed up to. Not all that different to what happened over on CrossCountry about 12 years ago.

The fares regulation system clearly isn't working when fares that a lot of people rely on for affordable transport can be ramped up in price almost overnight without any recourse. The justification for not having substantially greater fares regulation was, at the time, that it limited operators' commercial freedom. In reality the truth is probably that it's just another way for operators to squeeze passengers whilst the Government can wash its hands of the fact it's pushing ever more of the costs of the service onto passengers.

It could hardly happen at a more inopportune moment, either, with TPE delivering nothing even remotely close to being worthy of the epithet of a "service" in recent weeks and months (especially on the WCML route).

If the TOCs wanted to show that they really were sorry for their part of the blame, they'd freeze fares for a year and certainly not add new restrictions. But no, up they go every year, and down the pan the service goes.
 

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Offpeak Day Returns aren't regulated fares, so TOCs are not obliged to offer them. Government in 1994 and since hasn't regarded this an issue.
 

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Offpeak Day Returns aren't regulated fares, so TOCs are not obliged to offer them. Government in 1994 and since hasn't regarded this an issue.
They indeed aren't (except perhaps in one or two extremely unusual edge cases where fare names have been shuffled about).

My comment was implying that they should have been included within the subset of regulated fares. The government's decision not to do so has allowed substantial real-terms price increases for rail travellers despite places like Lockerbie having seen virtually no improvement in the timetable, and a substantial worsening of reliability.
 

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It's not exactly illogical.

You're right. I was struggling for right choice of word. TPE have gone for a more conventional fares lineup I would say (at least for those us in the north) but predictably taken the opportunity for a stealth price increase whilst they do it.

Scotrail priced the flow until May which is why they had Scotrail restriction codes,
SHR 38.10
SVR (0915) 31.20
CDR (no restriction) 20.00
SDS 19.40

Now TPE have had their first chance to change it to their image,
SHR 39.90
SVR (0815) 32.10
SDR 27.50
CDR (0929) 21.00
SDS 20.30

Given the lack of traditional off peak morning trains from Lockerbie to Edinburgh the reasonable thing to do would have been to lessen the SVR restriction as they have done, introduce an SDR but make the CDR restriction 0829 so the 0620 can be a peak train introducing that concept to day returns, but the 0835 remains off peak, if then the service provision improves in later years it could slip to a 0929 restriction.
 
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