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68025 has apparently reappeared with TP06 today (as you note in the diagrams thread).
TP04 has a broken windscreen on the DT vehicle which apparently hasn't been repaired.Since you mentioned it
Nova 3 sets: latest dates in traffic (as at 26.12.2019)
TP07 (68023) 24.12.2019
TP09 (68027) 24.12.2019
TP12 (68028) 23.12.2019
TP13 (68022) 22.12.2019
TP08 (68019) 22.12.2019
TP11 (68026) 05.12.2019
TP06 (68028) 28.11.2019
TP04 (68025) 28.10.2019
It seems that most of the sets rotate through being active but TP04 is the odd one out, with TP06 being the other away from the fray for quite some time.
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Many thanks for that, greatly appreciated.
68023 plus TP07 out today:
5E37 1300 Longsight-Manchester Vic
1E37 1330 Manchester Vic-Scarborough
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Presumably the spare DT will be getting some miles in then?
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My observation is that Sunday tends to be the better day, wish you luck for next time
On the plus side, 68023 ‘Achilles’ out with TP07 today working
5E37 Longsight to Manchester Victoria
1E37 15:30 Manchester Victoria to Scarborough
1F74 16:34 Scarborough to Liverpool Lime Street
and then booked
1E51 19:54 Liverpool Lime Street to Scarborough.
Picture of it taken at York earlier.
Doubtful, The broken windscreen happened 2 months ago so if they were going to use the spare then it would have gone on the set weeks ago.
I guess the spare DT will probably have to do some FFR before it’s used in service in any case.
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I don't think the spare had arrived 2 months ago... if it needs to do the FFR, it presumably needs to do them with a full set anyway. So at least to an outsider looking in it seems odd that it didn't take the place of the damaged vehicle once it was delivered.
Kieran1990
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Just had my first ride on the 11:00 Leeds- Man Vic.
Really impressed- rode in Coach A (DVT), plenty of leg room, comfortable, light, airy and the only issue was the PA but it’s early days for these sets.
was a weird feeling to feel or hear the roar from the engines in Morley or Stannadge tunnels. Suspect if I was in First I’d have heard the 68!
Really impressed- rode in Coach A (DVT), plenty of leg room, comfortable, light, airy and the only issue was the PA but it’s early days for these sets.
was a weird feeling to feel or hear the roar from the engines in Morley or Stannadge tunnels. Suspect if I was in First I’d have heard the 68!
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So if it's not going to be commissioned, what's the point of having a "spare?" Yet another excuse for not running specific trains that people have bought tickets to go on...
Maybe TPE should be forbidden to sell advance, operator- and train-specific tickets until there is a chance that the punters will actually get what they have paid for...
Because it can be commissioned when it gets fastened onto the rest of a set, if it is needed.
And if not needed, then no point risking breaking a perfectly good and tested set of carriages.
I can only imagine it would be needed in the case of a crash that causes more than cosmetic damage. So not going to be 10 minute coupling job because of inspections and tests to the rest of the train.
It’s about being able to replace a damaged DVT within a few weeks rather than a year or more for a new build.
Now there might be some maintenance or something where a DVT swap is useful. Bit you aren’t going to see that until all the sets are in service. Because while you have unused sets, you’d just swap the complete set incase or a problem.
And for now, you might as well keep commissioning the rest of the full trains. A working full train way more useful than a spare part.
so at what point is it worth commissioning your "spare" (which isn't really available, it seems?) A commissioned set is standing idle because the replacement DT can't be used!
(Although I suppose if you haven't trained your crews to drive them it doesn't matter how many trains you leave standing around in sidings.
It's not even as though there is no real need for a major capacity increase over the Pennines! These trains aren't in the "nice to have" category, they are desperately needed.)
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Commissioning the spare "only when it's needed" is like having a spare battery for your phone but only starting to charge it once the existing one runs dry. I can understand it being the last job on the list, but to not do that job until you need the spare seems, to an outsider looking in, just plain daft.
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If a set that is commissioned and can’t be used due to a fault with a DT, why can’t that set be used to attach the spare DT to and accumulate its FFR?
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With only 4 sets in service, if there is a fault with a Driving Trailer then the whole set can be swapped out. No need to worry about the spare DT until the whole fleet is being used.
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Finally got a decent run on one of these sets last night, on 1P94 from Huddersfield to Scarborough, headed by 68022 "Resolution" which was rather appropriate for January the 1st! All ran to time (pretty much) and the acceleration feels more like an EMU than diesel LHCS. Top marks also to the Steward, whom I sought out soon after boarding in order to procure a cup of tea for my dad, who is not in the best of health and had got a bit of a chill on the walk up from the football ground. She was happy to let me sit in (empty) first class while she sorted the drinks in the galley, as the portable hot water situation is still a bit problematic apparently... my only disappointment was that the sound insulation on the coaches is so good that I could barely hear the 68 a few metres away!
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Somebody must have enjoyed allocating that!
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70016 has returned TP05 from storage at MOD Longtown today - https://flic.kr/p/2ictKxp
That's 2 of the 4 stored ones to have come back now.
That's 2 of the 4 stored ones to have come back now.
fireftrm
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the sound insulation doesn't extend to the fixtures and fittings, which rattle terribly, or to the bogies which are very noisy. There's only been one set I've travelled in with working WiFi and none with the automatic announcements/displays in full working order.
DJH1971
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The 1654 Liverpool to Scarborough was cancelled this evening, due to electrical issues that apparently were affecting the fire alarm system.
IamTrainsYT
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Today in Leeds I saw:
68021/TP12
68023/TP07
68025/TP06
68027/TP09
68021/TP12
68023/TP07
68025/TP06
68027/TP09
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They have to contact the signaller to check whether they're allowed to - it all depends on the station, how far the overshoot is, where the signals are etc.
You're also unable to walk from the Driving Cab to the 68 directly, so depending on in which direction the overshoot happened, they may have needed to wait for an all clear from the signaller. On some parts of the outskirts of the station there's no cess, so they would have had to walk directly in the four foot or six foot, thus exposing themselves to direct danger.
IamTrainsYT
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I’m guessing it was towards Manchester, all the 68s face towards Scarborough
yes it was and the driver did have to walk along the track. Never seen a train overshoot before.
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