Donald Trump and the aftermath of his presidency

DaleCooper · 19 Dec 2019

If it wasn't Trump this would be unbelievable, we've just got inured to his mendacity.

Footage resurfaces of Trump saying Bush should be impeached for “lying”

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Jordan Adam · 19 Dec 2019

DaleCooper said:
If it wasn't Trump this would be unbelievable, we've just got inured to his mendacity.

It is quite worrying isn't it, we've gotten so used to his immaturity that the world just brushes over it.

The video you linked is pretty telling, he pretty much contradicts everything he's saying now!

DaleCooper said:
Footage resurfaces of Trump saying Bush should be impeached for “lying”

If he believes that then shouldn't he have got Impeached from day one?.. I think he's at around 15,000 lies now since taking office.

DaleCooper · 19 Dec 2019

Another significant thing from that video is how relatively eloquent he is compared to the rambling, bumbling word salad he comes out with now. I'm sure it's a sign of mental decline.

Deepgreen · 19 Dec 2019

What a shame we can't impeach here - Johnson is over-qualified for the treatment.

JamesT · 19 Dec 2019

Deepgreen said:
What a shame we can't impeach here - Johnson is over-qualified for the treatment.

We do have it in this country, it's just not been used in quite some time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_in_the_United_Kingdom

najaB · 19 Dec 2019

JamesT said:
We do have it in this country, it's just not been used in quite some time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_in_the_United_Kingdom

We also have the more simple and straightforward vote of no confidence.

Jordan Adam · 19 Dec 2019

DaleCooper said:
Another significant thing from that video is how relatively eloquent he is compared to the rambling, bumbling word salad he comes out with now. I'm sure it's a sign of mental decline.

I think that video was before his Tweet count blew up! It's quite worrying that the most powerful man in the world spends most of his time ranting on twitter. Sadly his base which i can't describe in any way other than delusional will stick by him regardless of what happens. It doesn't help that US Media are extremely bias on both sides, we moan about the BBC, but they're very equal to both sides when compared to the likes of CNN and FOX.

Cowley · 3 Jan 2020

It seems that Mr Trump has been busy ordering the death of a rather well known Iranian General...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-50986185

Soleimani was killed by an air strike at Baghdad airport early on Friday ordered by US President Donald Trump.

The 62-year-old Soleimani spearheaded Iran's Middle East operations as head of the elite Quds Force.

Mr Trump said the US took its action to stop, not start, a war. But the killing marks a major escalation in tensions.

Is this complete insanity? ~~Or is there some intelligent thought behind it?~~

najaB · 3 Jan 2020

Cowley said:
Is this complete insanity? ~~Or is there some intelligent thought behind it?~~

You are correct, there's no plan behind it other than to distract from his impeachment trial in the Senate. After all, you can't remove the Commander in Chief during a war.

Cowley · 3 Jan 2020

najaB said:
You are correct, there's no plan behind it other than to distract from his impeachment trial in the Senate. After all, you can't remove the Commander in Chief during a war.

That’s as good a theory as anything I can come up with najaB.

Jordan Adam · 3 Jan 2020

najaB said:
You are correct, there's no plan behind it other than to distract from his impeachment trial in the Senate. After all, you can't remove the Commander in Chief during a war.

If i'm not mistaken he didn't inform congress either!

najaB · 3 Jan 2020

Just watched this. Says it all really.

Cowley · 3 Jan 2020

najaB said:
Just watched this. Says it all really.

Yes it really does.

Edders23 · 3 Jan 2020

The real shame of this is that it will probably be British lives lost in the retaliation which will surely come

DaleCooper · 3 Jan 2020

Cowley said:
Is this complete insanity?

"This is perfect insanity, it's the best insanity America has ever had, every country in the world wishes they had my insanity, insanity was never this good under Obama."

ilkestonian · 3 Jan 2020

I know of at least four Trump tweets from Obama's presidency where he mockingly stated he thought Obama would start a war with Iran to distract from falling popularity.

Trump. The git, er I mean gift that keeps on giving.

Just a crying shame it's people's lives he likes gambling with.

Jordan Adam · 3 Jan 2020

Do I really need to say much more than watch a Trump (politics related) interview from 10 years ago... You'll very quickly notice he entirely contradicts everything he's said and done since around 2015.

Obama wasn't perfect, but at least he brought stability and leadership. Trump only brings instability, hourly lies, twitter rants and general Clownery. Trump's supporter base is a huge issue too as they'll religiously support and believe everything he says.

Scotrail314209 · 3 Jan 2020

Part of me is actually extremely scared to see what this will mean for my future as I am only 19.

The thought of war absolutely horrifies me and I hope it doesn't lead to that, as no doubt Britain will be dragged in.

SteveM70 · 3 Jan 2020

The Iranians must be daft though.....they described Trump’s decision to order the assassination as (something like) “the biggest strategic mistake he could make”. Like Trump has anything remotely approaching strategy!

Busaholic · 3 Jan 2020

What a way to start a new decade (assuming, of course, the decade runs its full course, by no means certain now). Let's not forget that North Korea is quietly getting on with their WMD, knowing the monumental fool Trump will pretend not to notice rather than lose face by acknowledging he was being guyed all along by Kim Jung-on. Oh, and Johnson wasn't informed in advance, but I expect he found time to call Farage.

kermit · 3 Jan 2020

Busaholic said:
What a way to start a new decade (assuming, of course, the decade runs its full course, by no means certain now). Let's not forget that North Korea is quietly getting on with their WMD, knowing the monumental fool Trump will pretend not to notice rather than lose face by acknowledging he was being guyed all along by Kim Jung-on. Oh, and Johnson wasn't informed in advance, but I expect he found time to call Farage.

Have a "Like"!!!

DerekC · 3 Jan 2020

Scotrail314209 said:
Part of me is actually extremely scared to see what this will mean for my future as I am only 19.

The thought of war absolutely horrifies me and I hope it doesn't lead to that, as no doubt Britain will be dragged in.

Cheer up - JFK did his Cuba broadcast on my birthday when I was about your age. That was scary - but we are all still around! It's unlikely that Iran will make a direct military response - they (unlike Trump) are masters of patience. They will probably wait until they can do most damage to his re-election prospects.

Scotrail314209 · 4 Jan 2020

DerekC said:
Cheer up - JFK did his Cuba broadcast on my birthday when I was about your age. That was scary - but we are all still around! It's unlikely that Iran will make a direct military response - they (unlike Trump) are masters of patience. They will probably wait until they can do most damage to his re-election prospects.

Cuban Missile Crisis (I think) sounds absolutely horrifying, but the main reason for my fear is this is the first time in my lifetime that I’ve been faced with even a slight chance of a world war. What worries me more is that it would be nuclear.

Scotrail314209 · 4 Jan 2020

DerekC said:
Cheer up - JFK did his Cuba broadcast on my birthday when I was about your age. That was scary - but we are all still around! It's unlikely that Iran will make a direct military response - they (unlike Trump) are masters of patience. They will probably wait until they can do most damage to his re-election prospects.

Cuban Missile Crisis (I think) sounds absolutely horrifying, but the main reason for my fear is this is the first time in my lifetime that I’ve been faced with even a slight chance of a world war. What worries me more is that it would be nuclear.

najaB · 4 Jan 2020

Scotrail314209 said:
Cuban Missile Crisis (I think) sounds absolutely horrifying, but the main reason for my fear is this is the first time in my lifetime that I’ve been faced with even a slight chance of a world war. What worries me more is that it would be nuclear.

I doubt there will be a world war, but a major regional war is a distinct possibility.

mmh · 4 Jan 2020

Can't help but feel a lot of opinion is being swayed simply because Trump is President, and that if the same had happened 5 years ago people would be lauding, or at least ignoring, it because it was Obama.

jon0844 · 4 Jan 2020

Cowley said:
It seems that Mr Trump has been busy ordering the death of a rather well known Iranian General...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-50986185

Is this complete insanity? ~~Or is there some intelligent thought behind it?~~

Seems Russia benefits a lot from a high oil price (is it because it can then sell more of its own energy?) and this happens after Trump speaks to Putin, and Trump's son Tweets (then deletes) a message about something big happening soon....

Now Boris says he wasn't told and I assume nobody was.

I guess a war right now is a good diversion, just as he said Obama would do.

He doesn't care because he believes he is untouchable, and everyone will vote for him. I have to believe that at some point the Republicans will realise they have to throw him under a bus for their own survival.

jon0844 · 4 Jan 2020

najaB said:
I doubt there will be a world war, but a major regional war is a distinct possibility.

I doubt it too. Who will work with the US now? I am not even sure Boris is that stupid. Other European nations will certainly tell him to do one.

Cowley · 4 Jan 2020

jon0844 said:
I doubt it too. Who will work with the US now? I am not even sure Boris is that stupid. Other European nations will certainly tell him to do one.

I think you’re probably right Jon. I get the feeling that our government are already trying to distance themselves from the situation.

DynamicSpirit · 4 Jan 2020

najaB said:
I doubt there will be a world war, but a major regional war is a distinct possibility.

I agree. I can't see any plausible way that this could lead to a World War. Most likely, in the short term, some increased risk of terrorist/etc. strikes against Western targets, particularly in the Middle East. In the medium term, if Soleimani has really been involved with stirring up even half the stuff that is being claimed, then removing him could actually mean less conflict, once the angry sentiments over his death have had time to die down.

As for, major regional war, you could argue that that has already been happening for about the last 10 years or so thanks to conflicts between different (mainly, Muslim) groups within the Middle East - although it's taken the form of various interlinked conflicts rather than a well defined war between two nation states.

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