Transport for Wales 769's

anthony263 · 8 Dec 2019

PHILIPE said:
Where did 006 do it's mileage accumulation ?

Probably at night maybe using the relief lines between Cardiff and newport

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PHILIPE · 8 Dec 2019

anthony263 said:
Probably at night maybe using the relief lines between Cardiff and newport

Nobody seems to have any knowledge of it having left Canton at all. Have you got a source to back up your claim please ?

anthony263 · 8 Dec 2019

PHILIPE said:
Nobody seems to have any knowledge of it having left Canton at all. Have you got a source to back up your claim please ?

Sorry I mis red the message what I. Want to say if its doing any mileage runs now that it's in south wales perhaps Cardiff to Newport on the relief linescould be an option

anamyd · 9 Dec 2019

Philip Roberts said:
It's been sent to do it's reliability mileage. 006 has done most of it's, with the last part being over 5 days after Christmas. Route clearance and training will then start. 008 will be back in January

thanks for the info

Senna1210 · 11 Dec 2019

Philip Roberts said:
It's been sent to do it's reliability mileage. 006 has done most of it's, with the last part being over 5 days after Christmas. Route clearance and training will then start. 008 will be back in January

Nope 006 is going into refresh work at pullmans No tfw units have gone into millage acumilation yet as they are only cleared for approx 25 miles of running so more thn likely they will be done out of crewe so that they can be done in a week
008 will be the first to do it

PHILIPE · 4 Jan 2020

Is it I wonder ?

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K06147/2020-01-06/detailed

Followed by the usual Light Loco move back to Leiester

anthony263 · 4 Jan 2020

Its supposed uo be another 769 delivery. According to the rumour mill once 769442 has done its millage accumulation runs 769008 is next in line before its returned to canton

Bob Price · 6 Jan 2020

See the delivery was cancelled due to traction issues. Wonder if this is unit or loco?

CapitalStar378 · 6 Jan 2020

TfW are having no luck whatsoever are they? 769s still on hold, no sign of 230s and there were 2 out of 10 170s in service today apparently. No wonder WalesOnline is on a daily bitch fest!

Bob Price · 6 Jan 2020

If drivers are training on the 230's and the production one is testing it surely can't be long before we see on in action?

PHILIPE · 6 Jan 2020

Bob Price said:
If drivers are training on the 230's and the production one is testing it surely can't be long before we see on in action?

TFW Twitter only said today that the 230s will be in use on the Borderlines route from Spring 2020. But we have heard all this before

DannyMich2018 · 6 Jan 2020

CapitalStar378 said:
TfW are having no luck whatsoever are they? 769s still on hold, no sign of 230s and there were 2 out of 10 170s in service today apparently. No wonder WalesOnline is on a daily bitch fest!

No they certainly not having any luck!! Wasn't the first Class 769 delivered to Canton back in March 2019, 10 months ago? For what good it is the 230 and 769 project needs to be out out of it's misery, how about a few ex Northern Pacers on a temporary basis to help out?

Also what I've heard Greater Anglia handed the 170's over in an appalling condition hence many have been to Canton/Landore/Tyseley for works.

Caaardiff · 6 Jan 2020

Are there any other units due to come off lease soon from other operators? Some more 170s or 158s, or dare I say it 153s.
Put double 153s on the city line,
Speed up introductions of 170s on the heart of wales.
Are there enough 150s to solely cover valleys?
Scrap the 769s altogether.
Time is going on now so there may be other operators losing some older frames that TfW could pick up that weren't available before.

PHILIPE · 6 Jan 2020

DannyMich2018 said:
No they certainly not having any luck!! Wasn't the first Class 769 delivered to Canton back in March 2019, 10 months ago? For what good it is the 230 and 769 project needs to be out out of it's misery, how about a few ex Northern Pacers on a temporary basis to help out? Also what I've heard Greater Anglia handed the 170's over in an appalling condition hence many have been to Canton/Landore/Tyseley for works.

The ex Northern 142s cannot be used by TFW because, although TFWs 142s can continue in service, the dispensation applies to individual numbers and not the fleet type as a whole. It would possible take some legal wrangling to change anything.

anamyd · 6 Jan 2020

Caaardiff said:
Are there any other units due to come off lease soon from other operators? Some more 170s or 158s, or dare I say it 153s.
Put double 153s on the city line,
Speed up introductions of 170s on the heart of wales.
Are there enough 150s to solely cover valleys?
Scrap the 769s altogether.
Time is going on now so there may be other operators losing some older frames that TfW could pick up that weren't available before.

the 4 ex-EMR 153s moved to Arriva TrainCare Crewe the other day, and I believe that they're being delivered to Canton on Saturday the 11th, though not sure. The 5 ex-GA 153s haven't entered service yet though, despite having been delivered over a month ago. These 9 little units are of course the ones that Porterbrook are leasing to TfW to "cover for" the 769s, and will remain unmodified and they have dispensation to operate until 31/12/2019. They just need to operate in the first place!

anthony263 · 6 Jan 2020

1st class 230 is supposed to be going to the test track st Barry soon I've been told. Think staff training is being done using 230002

anthony263 · 6 Jan 2020

769008 I was told on wnxx supposed to do its millage accumulation after 769442 has completed its abd being accepted by Northern.

Skip 10 · 7 Jan 2020

anthony263 said:
1st class 230 is supposed to be going to the test track st Barry soon I've been told. Think staff training is being done using 230002

It was supposed to have arrived before Christmas but..........

As for 002 apparently there's not a lot in common with the TFW ones, apart from the drive train, so while it might give some handling experience it's not going give a massive amount of training to drivers and guards.

6Gtraincrew · 7 Jan 2020

Skip 10 said:
It was supposed to have arrived before Christmas but..........

As for 002 apparently there's not a lot in common with the TFW ones, apart from the drive train, so while it might give some handling experience it's not going give a massive amount of training to drivers and guards.

For what it's worth, I'd heard that 002 cabs are identical to the tfw ones which is why it's being used for early training. No use for guards though as there are few similarities.

Bob Price · 7 Jan 2020

Looks like there are paths for Thursday for more runs. Whether they happen or not is another story.
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K15515/2020-01-09/detailed

Philip Roberts · 7 Jan 2020

Bob Price said:
Looks like there are paths for Thursday for more runs. Whether they happen or not is another story.
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K15515/2020-01-09/detailed

769008 coming back

anthony263 · 7 Jan 2020

Philip Roberts said:
769008 coming back

Is it I was told it was going to crewe first for millage accumulation or are they doing it now in south wales ?

Cardiff123 · 7 Jan 2020

Philip Roberts said:
769008 coming back

Even though it's pathed as D-Train? And is only Long Marston to Moreton-in-Marsh?

Bob Price · 7 Jan 2020

Cardiff123 said:
Even though it's pathed as D-Train? And is only Long Marston to Moreton-in-Marsh?

I was responding to the comments about 230's testing.

Philip Roberts · 7 Jan 2020

Cardiff123 said:
Even though it's pathed as D-Train? And is only Long Marston to Moreton-in-Marsh?

May not be that path but 008 is due to come back and then do it's mileage down here at the end of the month.

D365 · 7 Jan 2020

Skip 10 said:
As for 002 apparently there's not a lot in common with the TFW ones, apart from the drive train, so while it might give some handling experience it's not going give a massive amount of training to drivers and guards.

Did 002 have a third carriage added to it? I’ve not kept up with its operations since it went up to Bo’ness.

Strange that Vivarail haven’t done a formal announcement on the delay yet, like what happened with the WMT units.

anthony263 · 8 Jan 2020

D365 said:
Did 002 have a third carriage added to it? I’ve not kept up with its operations since it went up to Bo’ness.

Strange that Vivarail haven’t done a formal announcement on the delay yet, like what happened with the WMT units.

It has yes

anthony263 · 8 Jan 2020

769008 is reportedly on it's way back to south wales running about 3 hours late

Bob Price · 8 Jan 2020

Well spotted.
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K06263/2020-01-08/detailed

tomos dafis · 8 Jan 2020

Bob Price said:
Well spotted.
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K06263/2020-01-08/detailed

Did this actually arrive at canton pullmans? On RTT no actual times shown after Rumney Junction

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