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153 on Mid-Cheshire line?

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Northern's 'Journey Check' is showing the 0651 Chester - Piccadilly as being formed of one carriage instead of two. Can anyone confirm that it is indeed a 153 operating this service? I didn't know 153s ventured on to the Mid-Cheshire line.
It's also showing as running 17 minutes late, having apparently been delayed at Mobberley. That seems plausible enough, if half the intending passengers haven't been able to board, but it's also showing as not stopping at Altrincham or Navigation Road. What happens to passengers hoping to alight at those stations (of which I imagine there would be some)? Do they get booted off at Hale?
 
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RTT says it did stop at Altrincham after all (now 27L). It's difficult to tell if it's skipped any other stops, since few are tracking points.
Another thing indicated by RTT is that the train was 17 late arriving at Mobberley, not just departing.
 
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RTT now says whatever it was made it to Piccadilly 32L, went into P8, and hasn't moved since.
 
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It was 150116. I was on it. I think it was the rear engine that failed just before Knutsford, lighting then failed so all passengers moved to front carriage. Slow progress under one engine. Skipped Navigation Road but stopped elsewhere. However much you polish a ....., its still a ..... Oh for a nice simple reliable Pacer.
 
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leonard clive said:
It was 150116. I was on it. I think it was the rear engine that failed just before Knutsford, lighting then failed so all passengers moved to front carriage. Slow progress under one engine. Skipped Navigation Road but stopped elsewhere. However much you polish a ....., its still a ..... Oh for a nice simple reliable Pacer.
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Had a feeling it was more likely to be a 150 or 156 with a carriage locked out - Thanks for confirming. Sounds like a tedious and unpleasant journey.
 
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leonard clive said:
I think it was the rear engine that failed just before Knutsford, lighting then failed so all passengers moved to front carriage.
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Out of interest, are passengers not permitted to travel in a carriage without lighting?
 
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Out of interest, are passengers not permitted to travel in a carriage without lighting?
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not if it’s dark. One trip and fall and it’s the TOC liable. They wouldn’t take that risk. Also, I assume there was no heating without an engine so it would be freezing in there that time of the morning. They are pretty slow with one engine but to lose that amount of time is a bit strange.
 
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not if it’s dark. One trip and fall and it’s the TOC liable. They wouldn’t take that risk. Also, I assume there was no heating without an engine so it would be freezing in there that time of the morning. They are pretty slow with one engine but to lose that amount of time is a bit strange.
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We had 150119 with one engine on the Harrogate line last week. 60 minutes late by the time they put it out of its misery at Harrogate:

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/Y20738/2020-01-02/detailed
 
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Bovverboy said:
Out of interest, are passengers not permitted to travel in a carriage without lighting?
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sw1ller said:
not if it’s dark. One trip and fall and it’s the TOC liable. They wouldn’t take that risk. Also, I assume there was no heating without an engine so it would be freezing in there that time of the morning. They are pretty slow with one engine but to lose that amount of time is a bit strange.
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Interestingly, I remember an occasion when I was a kid - maybe towards the end of BR or near the beginning of privatisation - where I was on a train and the carriage we were in didn't have any lighting. It was during the day, so not a huge issue, but there were a number of tunnels on the route which made for some quite interesting travelling! Days before mobile phones so nobody had any handy light sources and all my Mum had was a portable bedside clock (she can't wear watches so would travel with this) which, when you pressed the top button, a small, dim, green, LED would light up. Strange the things you remember sometimes! Would likely have been a journey from London either to Fareham or Tiverton, more likely the former.
 
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