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Will be interesting to see how quickly they are all in service once one is...
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one would imagine fairly rapidly depending how many units have actually been accepted by GA and passed fit for service. Would also expect to see the Stansted 745's appear shortly once most of the IC units are out.
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To be honest..i expect them to be more reliable than the 755s - no diesel engine coolant issues and no diesel to electric or v.v. power changeovers to worry about.
Perhaps they'll get a handful into service so the remaining Mk3 rakes can be put back to full strength. Then complete the 755 rollout and then finish the 745 rollout.
That's what I'd do.
Mind you, if there's enough people etc to roll out 745 and 755 together then I guess that's what will happen.
Will be interested to try one out. I'm travelling to London tomorrow and Thursday but I don't think my travel times will match that diagram. No doubt I'll get the chance soon enough.
Will miss the Mk3 sets but I've always hated the fixed armrests and some of the cushions are knackered now. I will savour the droplights and the slam of a coach door whilst it's still possible to do so.
That's what I'd do.
Mind you, if there's enough people etc to roll out 745 and 755 together then I guess that's what will happen.
Will be interested to try one out. I'm travelling to London tomorrow and Thursday but I don't think my travel times will match that diagram. No doubt I'll get the chance soon enough.
Will miss the Mk3 sets but I've always hated the fixed armrests and some of the cushions are knackered now. I will savour the droplights and the slam of a coach door whilst it's still possible to do so.
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It depends how many units are available in order to get enough drivers trained. How many Liverpool Street and Bishops Stortford drivers needing training for Stansted services?
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If anyone can get the plated weight details, please post them here. That would be useful.
Analysing the 755 variants and doing a few calculations, i am expecting a 745 12-car to be around 400t, so these may well have the slowest electric acceleration of the UK Stadler bunch with a 'measly' 17.4hp/t compared to the 21.3hp/t of the 755/4 and 25.5hp/t of the 755/3. Still, they would hopefully be good for 0 to 60 mph in around 40-45 seconds and 100mph in under 2 mins! Lets hope 007 can get out of the depot in the morning!
Analysing the 755 variants and doing a few calculations, i am expecting a 745 12-car to be around 400t, so these may well have the slowest electric acceleration of the UK Stadler bunch with a 'measly' 17.4hp/t compared to the 21.3hp/t of the 755/4 and 25.5hp/t of the 755/3. Still, they would hopefully be good for 0 to 60 mph in around 40-45 seconds and 100mph in under 2 mins! Lets hope 007 can get out of the depot in the morning!
Astro_Orbiter
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All of West Anglia depots sign the same routes/traction aside from a few minor differences. Cambridge will be ahead of the rest due to the Norwich to Stansted using 755. Bishops Stortford is I think the largest driver depot on GA so that'll take some time for everyone to get trained.
Edit: to answer your question, Stansted Express services are covered by all 3 WA depots, although majority will be Stortford jobs.
dk1
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They can be trained on the hourly 755s from Cambridge as then ready for the 745/1s when they arrive as no conversion needed.
Astro_Orbiter
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I think they're using one of the units from Coldham Lane to train, I see one quite frequently throughout the day going back and forth from Cambridge to Stortford
dk1
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I'm not sure if that's just an extra one there. One of the Cambridge drivers said those next to the main line haven't turned a wheel since arriving & need to be dragged by ROG eventually to Crown Point for commissioning.
Astro_Orbiter
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Quite likely, either way it's an additional unit to the Norwich-Stansted one that's used for training so far.
"The first of Greater Anglia's new Inter City trains between Norwich and London has made its inaugural journey with passengers."
https://www.edp24.co.uk/news/first-greater-anglia-inter-city-train-runs-from-norwich-1-6455415
https://www.edp24.co.uk/news/first-greater-anglia-inter-city-train-runs-from-norwich-1-6455415
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Talking about a 'soft' launch. GA not even bothering to mark the occasion in their website news.
F Great Eastern
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The only problem I have with these is the high density airline seating. A claustrophobic niche in the back of the seat in front is no substitute for decent seat pitch for tall people.
Just seen more pictures on this thread on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BusAndTrainUser/status/1214848858884313088
https://www.skoda.cz/reference/elektricka-jednotka-interpanter/?from=prod
Skoda make their own intercity electric train.
https://www.skoda.cz/reference/elektricka-jednotka-interpanter/?from=prod
samuelmorris
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Looking good - those images remind me that having a quiet coach in of the very few powered coaches seems a bit daft, but otherwise I think they've done a fine job here. I've yet to try the seating to see how tight the legroom is, but honestly on a longer journey I quite enjoy being a bit cosy - to that extent I don't have the same misgivings many other people have about Pendolinos.
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You're going to have a hard job fitting two laptops against each other on those first class tables.
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So far so good - no issues other than drivers having to drive like miss Daisy between London and Colchester to avoid catching up other services such as the usual Southend's diverting off at Southend and the Braintree diverting off at Witham etc. The sooner the whole fleet is replaced and the timetable accelerated - the better.
I like the fact that IC sets have secondary doors into the saloons from the vestibule area that keeps the cold and noise out - although already 1 pair seems stuck open.
An electronic seat reservation system is fitted - but clearly not in use yet.
The trolley seems to get through the train at least once on the journey to Norwich. No lattes or cappuccino for now. Just filter coffee - and they proudly serve 'yorkshire' tea.
This is a very very long train - allow at least 3 minutes to get from the ticket barrier to the front of the train.
Apparently this set will be working Mon to Fri on the same diagram each day until another set can come in. There may have been more available - but unofficially - several have severe wheel flats - caused by shunting with a parking brake on - or something along those lines. There is apparently nowhere to jack the units up at the moment to carry out the remedial work??
I like the fact that IC sets have secondary doors into the saloons from the vestibule area that keeps the cold and noise out - although already 1 pair seems stuck open.
An electronic seat reservation system is fitted - but clearly not in use yet.
The trolley seems to get through the train at least once on the journey to Norwich. No lattes or cappuccino for now. Just filter coffee - and they proudly serve 'yorkshire' tea.
This is a very very long train - allow at least 3 minutes to get from the ticket barrier to the front of the train.
Apparently this set will be working Mon to Fri on the same diagram each day until another set can come in. There may have been more available - but unofficially - several have severe wheel flats - caused by shunting with a parking brake on - or something along those lines. There is apparently nowhere to jack the units up at the moment to carry out the remedial work??
southern442
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They look really nice actually. The seats don't look exactly luxurious but are a step up from ironing boards at least and space seems to be decent. I was a bit apprehensive about the layout of the whole train, but the partitioning doors between seats and vestibules are certainly very welcome and the whole thing does seem rather cosy (I imagine the much shorter, split up areas of seating as opposed to one long compartment does this job), particularly in first class where the furnishings look very nice. Looking forward to seeing what they are like to travel on.
The internal doors are not at the vestibule end but either side of the body side doors which makes it confusing as to what coach you are actually in.
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Ah thank you , was just wondering how the guard would lock a coach OOU etc.
F Great Eastern
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Does the central section with the long narrow corridor where all the electrical stuff is, have CCTV cameras covering this area? Haven't seen any in the photos so far.
If not then why not? Surely this is the exact place where they are needed.
If not then why not? Surely this is the exact place where they are needed.
Yes, there are two in this area in the wider central part.
F Great Eastern
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Good - since it could well be a magnet for anti social behaviour, smoking etc.
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Some early morning services Monday to Saturday won't have catering either.
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Take it these are the seat reservations?
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Yes. All seat reservations are suspended however whilst the fleet changeover takes place.
Take it these are the seat reservations?
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