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Transfer of LNER HST 125s to East Midlands Railway (EMR)

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Interesting, will this come with an additional Mk3 rake, or are the power cars replacing some of the existing XC 43s?
On Monday the Dundee - Plymouth was declared a failure at Edinburgh with the ecs believe to have run to LA that same day . Yesterday the same service was a 4 car voyager. Maybe XC have realised they have no slack in the system or maybe the failed set is economically not viable to repair given all the spare power cars now available. Both options could be feasible replacing a HST set with a 4 car voyager is not good for the image , especially with the running of the railways in the spotlight at the minute with both Northern and TPE getting a battering .
 

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On Monday the Dundee - Plymouth was declared a failure at Edinburgh with the ecs believe to have run to LA that same day . Yesterday the same service was a 4 car voyager. Maybe XC have realised they have no slack in the system or maybe the failed set is economically not viable to repair given all the spare power cars now available. Both options could be feasible replacing a HST set with a 4 car voyager is not good for the image , especially with the running of the railways in the spotlight at the minute with both Northern and TPE getting a battering .
Your theory is totally wrong.
 

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On Monday the Dundee - Plymouth was declared a failure at Edinburgh with the ecs believe to have run to LA that same day . Yesterday the same service was a 4 car voyager. Maybe XC have realised they have no slack in the system or maybe the failed set is economically not viable to repair given all the spare power cars now available. Both options could be feasible replacing a HST set with a 4 car voyager is not good for the image , especially with the running of the railways in the spotlight at the minute with both Northern and TPE getting a battering .

this seems a bit tin foily. I suspect XC have been able to get themselves some spare ( or perhaps spares) vehicles for a decent price.
 
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On Monday the Dundee - Plymouth was declared a failure at Edinburgh with the ecs believe to have run to LA that same day . Yesterday the same service was a 4 car voyager. Maybe XC have realised they have no slack in the system or maybe the failed set is economically not viable to repair given all the spare power cars now available. Both options could be feasible replacing a HST set with a 4 car voyager is not good for the image , especially with the running of the railways in the spotlight at the minute with both Northern and TPE getting a battering .

That train is only booked to be an HST on certain days. It was booked to be a Voyager yesterday, irrespective of any failure.

It did go ECS to Laira under its own power:
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/O77971/2020-01-06/detailed (incorrectly input as LNER)
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/O78034/2020-01-06/detailed
 

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Interesting, will this come with an additional Mk3 rake, or are the power cars replacing some of the existing XC 43s?
I hope there are Mk3s to go with them if this is the case. Do LNER locos have ATP installed? I remember XC saying that was the reason they couldn't take on FGW locos.

Edit: I've convinced myself that they do not as I remember them being hired in to XC last summer.
 

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According to a post of Facebook the LNER sets will be phased in from the end of the month.
 

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That train is only booked to be an HST on certain days. It was booked to be a Voyager yesterday, irrespective of any failure.

It did go ECS to Laira under its own power:
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/O77971/2020-01-06/detailed (incorrectly input as LNER)
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/O78034/2020-01-06/detailed
RTT - definitely not the be all and end all - has 3 schedules in for this week for this service:
A MO
A TWTHO
A FO
All diagrammed for a 125 high speed train , not sure whether that’s just for this week though :)
 

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Seriously I now gather the LNER sets need to have PIS displays installed in the coaches (dynamic visual information display). Interestingly the derogation / dispensation letters for the former LNER HSTs do not include an exemption for lack of PIS (while those for other fleets such as the 153s and the existing HSTs do).
Well considering EMR (and XC) are the only company left in england with full HSTs in service and their HSTs will soon be replaced by HSTs which have already been exempted from the PRM. You wonder why EMRs 43/0s will never get PIS displays
 
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RTT - definitely not the be all and end all - has 3 schedules in for this week for this service:
A MO
A TWTHO
A FO
All diagrammed for a 125 high speed train , not sure whether that’s just for this week though :)

As has been stated on many previous occasions, RTT does not say what something is the booked traction. "Pathed as" does not mean "diagrammed for".
 

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Well considering EMR are the only company left in england with full HSTs in service and their HSTs will soon be replaced by HSTs which have already been exempted from the PRM. You wonder why EMR HSTs will never get PIS displays
The sets transferring from LNER to EMR have PIS displays.
 

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Well considering EMR are the only company left in england with full HSTs in service and their HSTs will soon be replaced by HSTs which have already been exempted from the PRM. You wonder why EMR HSTs will never get PIS displays
Apart from XC which will probably have them longer than EMR
 

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Almost forgot :lol:
Iam surprised as I thought the HST wont get them but only the 91s would??

As I understand it the PIS is being fitted to the sets before they transfer to EMR. Certainly none of the LNER HSTs I've been on in recent months had PIS screens fitted.
 

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I hope there are Mk3s to go with them if this is the case. Do LNER locos have ATP installed? I remember XC saying that was the reason they couldn't take on FGW locos.

Edit: I've convinced myself that they do not as I remember them being hired in to XC last summer.
No they don't as it was only for the GWML HST's.
 

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On the 1134 to Nottingham, I have to say I won't miss the EMR carriages, I'd forgotten how uncomfortable I find the IC70 seats , they're far too low backed
 

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I'm on 1B58 with 43 052 and 43 467. Is it common to have VP185 and MTU power in the same set? I will have to agree with the above post that the mallard interiors are far superior to the IC70 seats. The ride quality of these Mk3s are worse than I've come to expect on GWRs 255 sets.
 
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