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Stations due to close?

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paul1609

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The station for the former P&R site is effectively just retained until the site is redeveloped for housing, when it can be brought back into proper use. If it's closed and reopened (rather than sparsely used) it would need to reopen to full modern standards, and it also would not be available in emergency if St Erth is not available for some reason.

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I walked through there on my Lands End to John o'Groats walk in April last year the housing appeared to be complete although there may be a second phase part of the car park still remained. Its only about a 10 min it walk to Lelant or St Erth stations. I can't imagine there would be much business tbh.
 
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I'd imagine Polesworth would get decent use if they reinstated the London bound platform (with a ramp to the road) and stopped all the LNR Trent Valley services there as they should have done.
The usage at Polesworth is rather high as well given that there is only 1 train per day going northbound. I am 100% with you on the fact they should reinstate the London bound platform.
 

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Some years ago due to I believe its condition or not meeting disability regulations Polesworth station, south of Tamworth had its footbridge removed and therefore isolating its southbound platform. Since then its had just one northbound train a day in the morning around 0700. Cant be much use one train a day ? (Mon-Sat). As above posts suggest a ramp could be possibly put in? There is a lot of houses here so there must be demand?
 

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I'd imagine Polesworth would get decent use if they reinstated the London bound platform (with a ramp to the road) and stopped all the LNR Trent Valley services there as they should have done.

And has a lot of potential customers on the doorstep, as Polesworth is a large village.

But you can argue there is potential customers at many other of the "parli" stations which would use the train if a decent service was provided [Pegswood etc].

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As for Teesside Airport, I can see that getting mothballed at somepoint based on the condition of the Darlington bound platform, maybe also Ardwick in Manchester when the footbridge is deemed unsafe
 

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And has a lot of potential customers on the doorstep, as Polesworth is a large village.

But you can argue there is potential customers at many other of the "parli" stations which would use the train if a decent service was provided [Pegswood etc].

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As for Teesside Airport, I can see that getting mothballed at somepoint based on the condition of the Darlington bound platform, maybe also Ardwick in Manchester when the footbridge is deemed unsafe

Ardwick is an eyesore at the moment with rust and ever increasing graffiti. Surely there can't be any viable reason for keeping this station open and leave it in this condition.

I thought I'd read somewhere that Barlaston was being considered for reopening? Didn't the station get some maintenance work last year?
 

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Is there much point in keeping Barry Links open, doesn't it average about 1 passenger a week

I don't understand, now the separate stopping service has been reinstated along that section of line, why they don't serve that (and Golf Street) more frequently. The numbers would surely increase then.

Certainly Golf Street, which has a large residential area adjoining it and is over 1km from Carnoustie - many Merseyrail stations are far closer together than that.
 

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Is there much point in keeping Barry Links open, doesn't it average about 1 passenger a week
Much as that could make sense, the trouble is where one draws the line on 'low use' to trigger closure. If a line does exist, everyone will be open to accusations of deliberately driving patronage down to that level. That is one reason why I think it is better, generally, to keep stations open.
 

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Trefforest Estate will be moving a couple of hundred meters, don't know which way though, I'm going to guess a bit closer to Coleg y Cymoedd
 

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There's a great air of mystery about these low usage/possible closure stations that I like. I went to see what was left of Norton Bridge a couple of years ago and obviously it was just the island platform. However, I always wonder what the station was like in years gone by and the causes behind the drop in passenger numbers.
 

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Manchester Piccadilly through lines, and Oxford Road - to improve punctuality. It's not the trains, it's the passengers getting on and off.

Mike Giggler.
 

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IBM and British Steel Redcar both no longer have any trains stopping at them (I believe) so will inevitably close soon.

Although I believe IBM Halt is being kept the way it is, as they plan to make a housing development on the site of the old factory.
 

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What future does Coombe Junction Halt have, only averages 3 passengers a week. Most trains reverse just outside the station
 

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What future does Coombe Junction Halt have, only averages 3 passengers a week. Most trains reverse just outside the station

I'd forgotten about that one. Can't be worthwhile with such low passenger numbers. I think odd freight services continues through the station. I wonder why it's still open.
 

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I'd forgotten about that one. Can't be worthwhile with such low passenger numbers. I think odd freight services continues through the station. I wonder why it's still open.
Because the procedure to properly close a railway station is long and expensive. It's cheaper to keep a station open and stop very few services there.
 

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I'd forgotten about that one. Can't be worthwhile with such low passenger numbers. I think odd freight services continues through the station. I wonder why it's still open.
The cost to run this station must be much smaller than the cost of closing it. Last time I was there, there were no lighting columns, a dead payphone and a broken help point. What amuses me about the other four stations down the valley is that they’ve all been fitted with WiFi, meanwhile my local GWR station that has nearly a million entries/exits doesn’t!
 

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Because the procedure to properly close a railway station is long and expensive. It's cheaper to keep a station open and stop very few services there.

And there's basically nothing to maintain on it other than to give the shelter a coat of paint every couple of years.

It does appear to serve no real purpose if you look at a map.
 

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Because the procedure to properly close a railway station is long and expensive. It's cheaper to keep a station open and stop very few services there.
This assertion has been made numerous times over the years.

So how much does it actually cost to "properly" close a railway station?
 

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I don’t really know much about the rules for station closure so sorry if i’m asking something obvious, but can TOCs ‘mothball’ stations? (Basically kept open by law but no services whatsoever, not even replacement buses, stopping there.)
 

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It is ridiculous that the railway is saddled with these inefficiencies. Really need a one off Act to close a swathe of joke stations, but it’s just too politically toxic.
There must be some way of linking smaller stations to development.
“Your village is too small for a station, accept significant housing development or lose the station. You decide”
 

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I don’t really know much about the rules for station closure so sorry if i’m asking something obvious, but can TOCs ‘mothball’ stations? (Basically kept open by law but no services whatsoever, not even replacement buses, stopping there.)
I don't know about the rules but that's effectively what Northern have done with British Steel Redcar.
 

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Maybe keep the 'not open but not closed either' stations in good order as unofficial rail enthusiast attractions. Or is that what's actually happening now?
 

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That'll go down really well in places like Ribblehead, Dent and Garsdale...
It would be less relevant for a rural scenic line such as the S&C but still relevant.
It’s all hidden subsidy because the cost comes out of a central government pot. If the local councils had to decide where the money went some more sensible decisions might need to be made. Rural areas need housing and if that and tourist accommodation was built by the stations it could reduce car use.
 
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