Merseyrail Class 777 introduction updates

childwallblues · 24 Dec 2019

Skie said:
Aye, but was more thinking along the lines of making it a viable Merseyrail service and not just a special for the football fans.

Do you live in the area?

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390112A · 24 Dec 2019

childwallblues said:
Surely Merseyrail would not have any involvement in any station on the Bootle Branch as Merseyrail access can only be via a reverse at Bootle Oriel Road from Liverpool Central. Trrains would obviously run from Lime Street via Edge Hill.

I believe the service even out of Lime Street would be operated by Merseyrail at least that’s what I understood.

DJH1971 · 31 Dec 2019

Anyone know if the first 777 has come to the UK yet?

trainmania100 · 31 Dec 2019

DJH1971 said:
Anyone know if the first 777 has come to the UK yet?

Don't think so no. There was a cancelled return barrier move to dollands moor from kirkdale just before Xmas and doubt anything would have come over since then

Jamesrob637 · 3 Jan 2020

Anything planned for next week to move the first set over or am I better checking on Monday?

Skie · 3 Jan 2020

Movement to the tunnel is held up by the French rail strikes.

trainmania100 · 5 Jan 2020

"The first Class 777 to be sent to England is expected to be 777 003, which is scheduled to arrive at Kirkdale depot in coming weeks"

Taken from this recent article http://www.railvolution.net/news/merseyrail-class-777-emus-on-test

Shouldn't be long til the first unit arrives then

danbarnstall · 6 Jan 2020

Merseytravel have tweeted today the first train has left Switzerland for Merseyside.

mic505 · 6 Jan 2020

Absolutely. Compare it to Bombardier's Class 701 and 720 delivery lol.

mpb56125 · 6 Jan 2020

777003 on route from Switzerland to UK.
https://railcolornews.com/2020/01/06/uk-merseyrail-no-003-including-detrainment-door/

Mark
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M28361M · 6 Jan 2020

Is the plan still for it to come all the way to Liverpool by rail?

Energy · 6 Jan 2020

M28361M said:
Is the plan still for it to come all the way to Liverpool by rail?

Think so

M28361M · 9 Jan 2020

From Merseytravel on Twitter... [link]

Fantastic news! We’re delighted to tell you that our first train has reached the UK after travelling through 3 countries and is in the South East – more updates to follow

Anyone know exactly where it is now? I am now scouring Realtime Trains to see if the path to Kirkdale depot has been input yet.

theshillito · 9 Jan 2020

M28361M said:
Anyone know exactly where it is now? I am now scouring Realtime Trains to see if the path to Kirkdale depot has been input yet.

According to this tweet it was in or passing through Folkestone earlier.

TRAX · 9 Jan 2020

Skie said:
Movement to the tunnel is held up by the French rail strikes.

Yes, expect more delays as long as the french strike is on.

Skie · 9 Jan 2020

TRAX said:
Yes, expect more delays as long as the french strike is on.

they're using a mostly German route now, hence the first unit arriving today.

Pyreneenguy · 9 Jan 2020

Pity I was "home" on Merseyside last week rather than now !

Anyone planning to take some photos of the delivery ? If so, could you put them in Media ?

I suppose it will be at some ungodly hour as a couple of reversals will be required at Bootle Junction and Sandhills.

trainmania100 · 9 Jan 2020

theshillito said:
According to this tweet it was in or passing through Folkestone earlier.

This would suggest its arrived at dollands moor, but yet to actually go anywhere. So we can expect a path soon.

Cletus · 11 Jan 2020

Just passed a 777 at Dollands Moor.

Spirit555 · 11 Jan 2020

Cletus said:
Just passed a 777 at Dollands Moor.

That would be 777003, posted elsewhere

Mark

M28361M · 12 Jan 2020

Just noticed that David Powell, programme director for the Merseyrail fleet replacement, tweeted this morning in response to a (now deleted) query from someone:

We’ll be releasing details on the Merseytravel twitter feed. You might want to not go to bed early on Wednesday night

Which would seem to be a pretty strong hint as to when 777003 is expected to reach Merseyside. There is nothing on RTT yet, but these workings tend to only appear at short notice.

Peter Mugridge · 13 Jan 2020

There's a routine "Q" path in the system for Wednesday mornings from Dollands Moor at 02.44 to Crewe Basford Hall; might they use that one for 777 003 and then path it on to Liverpool from there?

childwallblues · 13 Jan 2020

Peter Mugridge said:
There's a routine "Q" path in the system for Wednesday mornings from Dollands Moor at 02.44 to Crewe Basford Hall; might they use that one for 777 003 and then path it on to Liverpool from there?

It is booked to arrive at Kirkdale Depot "after midnight" on Thursday morning after three reversals - at Down Wapping, Bootle Junction and Sandhills.

M28361M · 13 Jan 2020

childwallblues said:
It is booked to arrive at Kirkdale Depot "after midnight" on Thursday morning after three reversals - at Down Wapping, Bootle Junction and Sandhills.

It looks like they are indeed using that 0244 "Q" path. It has now appeared in Realtime Trains, arriving Kirkdale 0042 on Thursday morning. https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/R03576/2020-01-15/detailed

Harryn9000 · 13 Jan 2020

M28361M said:
It looks like they are indeed using that 0244 "Q" path. It has now appeared in Realtime Trains, arriving Kirkdale 0042 on Thursday morning. https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/R03576/2020-01-15/detailed

Best play to see it will be bank hall on the bridge next to station

Skie · 13 Jan 2020

Well Crewe would be better if you want to see it in the daylight!
The Balliol end of Bootle Oriel Road has a good vantage point for the reversing move.

I'll actually be on a train heading in the other direction, so will be able to see it if I get the timing right.

Pyreneenguy · 14 Jan 2020

M28361M said:
It looks like they are indeed using that 0244 "Q" path. It has now appeared in Realtime Trains, arriving Kirkdale 0042 on Thursday morning. https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/R03576/2020-01-15/detailed

Thanks for that.

I didn't understand a first reversal at Wapping Down ( as per Childwallblues) it seemed much more logical to use the Olive Mount curve.

Get those cameras out guys and pray for decent weather !

Bevan Price · 14 Jan 2020

Pyreneenguy said:
Thanks for that.

I didn't understand a first reversal at Wapping Down ( as per Childwallblues) it seemed much more logical to use the Olive Mount curve.

Get those cameras out guys and pray for decent weather !

It is booked via Olive Mount Curve -- after spending 12 hours parked in the Crewe area. Unless they move it straight indoors at Kirkdale, photos may be possible with a telephoto/zoom lens from Kirkdale station, or from the Stanley Road overbridge (2 minutes walk from Bank Hall station.)

shakey1961 · 15 Jan 2020

According to Realtime Trains (if I'm reading it correctly) it will be doing the reversing sidings at Bootle Oriel Road at 2358 to 0028, through Bank Hall at 0031 and Sandhills at 0034 to 0039. Should be able to get some good shots and video from all those places. I wish I could be there.

shakey1961 · 15 Jan 2020

Can I ask a question? Why are they not bringing them through Hunts Cross? That (to me) would be the more logical route. Is there a way from the mainline (to Lime Street) to switch over to Merseyrail just before Liverpool South Parkway? Through the underground to Sandhills and straight onto Kirkdale. None of this faffing about using reversing sidings at Bootle Oriel Road and Sandhills.

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