Trebor 79 I agree and see exactly what you mean. I know I'm expecting too much, but humour me here! I reckon it's the Swiss connection. An hour after getting off 007, and reflection time.. I was thinking about the 'similar' trains I've spent years with in Switzerland and Germany. The same style heating ducts just don't get in the way out there.. so why here? The trains there seem far more airy, and the ride quality seems far better (is this a track/gauge thing?) 007 really felt like a regional stopping train would in Switzerland.. not intercity. I spoke to a couple of other folk who were very happy with 007 and I have to admit it's great to get something new and i'm really happy for that. Maybe it's because I've had 35 years of a daily commute on MK2's and 3's, and yes people did occasionally momentarily lose their balance walking down the aisle on those, but they were doing it tonight. OK I don't know what I was expecting, but I think we're going to be missing those yellow MK3 aluminium knobs. It took the person in front of me to push the exit button several times before the various whirring sounds began. I even thought 'OK I'll try those toilets everyone's talking about.. and yes I had all the same problems (why did the flush button lights go out when you move away from the pan) And the pathetically feeble sink which spills over the floor. The door that opens onto the worlds eyes, and leaves you standing there while it decides to slowly revolve shut. Initial impression for me.. Why are these not the same as similar trains in Switzerland? I just don't get it. Maybe it's like Swiss wine.. they keep all the good stuff for themselves. But wait till the end of next week and i'll no doubt be singing their praises.. as well as mourning the loss of some old friends. Anyroad up, well done GA this bit of the rollout is going well so far!