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Hi all I need advice as to what the best group bourdon online tool is please ?? and whether it’s more beneficial to use the computer or paper version ?? I have an assessment coming up soon so any advice would be very appreciated cheers in advance,Pete .
 
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Hi there,

There’s a practice tool attached to page 1 of this very thread.
The test is conducted on paper, so ideally, you should print off practice sheets, which are handily included in the practice tool too. :)
 
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Hi all Can anyone tell me what scores A pass on the online bourdon test tool please
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This seems to be a closely guarded secret so it's just a case of practising until you get to a point you're making as few errors and omissions as possible. As a rule of thumb, 9 or 10 rows seems to be a good target to aim
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Thanks for the reply yes I’m hitting 10 rows on average and like 0 incorrect with 2-3 omissions but I’ve just started so hopefully be able to slash 1-2 off the omissions
 
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Hello all

I've just seen a sheet that has 26 lines worth of dots. On average I was getting 11/12 lines.

Would that meet the enhanced pass standards?
 
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Hi would 11 lines (part way through the 12th) with one ommission and none incorrect be enough to pass to enhanced standard?
 
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Yeah honestly take your time its about concentration and word of advice work zig zac across
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Zig Zags? Err I can't agree with you on that one, but then again everyone has their own way of doing things. I usually go from Left to right on each row.
 
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redstars12 said:
Yeah honestly take your time its about concentration and word of advice work zig zac across
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Yeah I did this, left to right then right to left etc until about the 10th line then I just started on the left for each line as I didn't wanna get any potentional ommisions by missing out a whole line by starting at the end lol
 
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Twotwo said:
Yeah I did this, left to right then right to left etc until about the 10th line then I just started on the left for each line as I didn't wanna get any potentional ommisions by missing out a whole line by starting at the end lol
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I found this easier to do tho as its quicker and least you can get more mark, im happy to say that i have passed all mine and been given a trainee guards position. Cant wait
 
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redstars12 said:
I found this easier to do tho as its quicker and least you can get more mark, im happy to say that i have passed all mine and been given a trainee guards position. Cant wait
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You know that the OPC tell you it has to be left to right.
 
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Twotwo said:
Yes we know. Everyone has their own technique.
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Ok , well if you do your own technique and it goes against what the OPC require , then don't be surprised if you fail. It's not just about passing assessments , it's also about following rules/instructions.
 
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baz962 said:
Ok , well if you do your own technique and it goes against what the OPC require , then don't be surprised if you fail. It's not just about passing assessments , it's also about following rules/instructions.
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Okay and I passed so what now? :lol:
 
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baz962 said:
They may not have noticed. But someone else might be noticed. Other people might need the advice. Well done to you though .
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Eh? I don't think it matters how you do it. I can only recall the opc people saying it starts from the left but nothing about you HAVE to start on the left for each line. I'm sure if it was a big issue the opc would have stated that it's against the rule to do it in that manner and therefore you would disqualify. The only reason I wouldn't really advise people to do it that way is because you can potentionally make a lot of ommision on the last line if you started on the right and the assessor calls time which is why I only did the zig zag for 8-10 lines.
 
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I can recall that is what they told my group ... Don't go right to left , but hey ho . Perhaps they didn't mean to , or some other reason unbeknown.
 
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Yeah, as mentioned above, if you go from right to left and time runs out whilst you're stuck on the right side of the page, you've probably put yourself at a big risk of failing the test, as the test is marked from left to right. I would strongly advise against this approach. Remember, you only get two lifetime chances at this.
 
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I today received an email from the Metrolink in Manchester regarding the SCAAT test. They wanted me to do one online before 17/11 . Only trouble is that I am away from 15/11 - 18/11. I used the download for some rapid practice and I think I did ok-ish on the test. I do feel like my eyes are about to fall out though!
 
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Hi all,

I used this tool a couple of years back and found it very useful. Myself and my Mrs both use Macs and my work computer needs admin rights to install (and I don't think they'd be too happy with me asking permission to download a tool to potentially get myself another job haha!)

Would anyone be so kind as to email me over a handful of the print outs if at all possible? I've got a bunch of test sheets but I really want to go through as many variations as possible.

Thank you in advance!

Tom
 
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