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The47Wanderer

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Nowhere seems to have a list of all the current EMR HST diagrams, perhaps a list here to be updated with the times would be grand?

Tried searching, couldn't find one, mods, if one does exist, feel free to get rid of this one and point me in the right direction!
 
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Nowhere seems to have a list of all the current EMR HST diagrams, perhaps a list here to be updated with the times would be grand?

Tried searching, couldn't find one, mods, if one does exist, feel free to get rid of this one and point me in the right direction!

Not hard to find as EMR publish them for everyone to know in their paper Timetable 01 - see column heading

from here

https://www.eastmidlandsrailway.co.uk/timetables-updates/timetables

This being what you need
https://www.eastmidlandsrailway.co....T_m-bD7VBlSliOIh_26jM/timetable_1_for_web.pdf

Only misses out ECS movements.

IME rare for EMR to set swap them either, although occasional happens on late eve services I note.
 

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One might have thought that EMR know which of their trains are operated by HSTs. Unfortunately, they don't...
The evening round trip to Corby made by an ex GC HST (1650 dn, 1837 up) was shown, in both the recently-expired tt and the one linked above, as MER.

Edit to correct time of down service; I got it wrong as well.
 
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I have merged the 125group and EMR timetable info to produce this list of HST weekday arrivals and departures at St Pancras. If you are in the know feel free to share if some trains are no longer HSTs.
St Pancras dep 0704 1D07 0704 St Pancras Nottingham 0901 NL081
St Pancras arr 0736 1B09 0532 Nottingham St Pancras 0736 NL084
St Pancras arr 0809 1C11 0531 Sheffield St Pancras 0809 NL082
St Pancras arr 0827 1C13 0600 Sheffield St Pancras 0827 NL086
St Pancras dep 0834 1D13 0834 St Pancras Nottingham 1016 NL084
St Pancras arr 0855 1C15 0519 Leeds St Pancras 0855 NL083
St Pancras arr 0909 1B16 0711 Nottingham St Pancras 0909 NL085
St Pancras dep 0934 1D18 0934 St Pancras Nottingham 1114 NL083
St Pancras arr 0942 1C18 0730 Derby St Pancras 0942 DY022
St Pancras arr 1004 1C22 0746 Sheffield St Pancras 1004 NL088
St Pancras dep 1005 1D21 1005 St Pancras Nottingham 1205 DY022
St Pancras arr 1011 1B23 0634 Leeds St Pancras 1011 NL087
St Pancras dep 1034 1D23 1034 St Pancras Nottingham 1213 NL087
St Pancras arr 1125 1B28 0945 Nottingham St Pancras 1125 NL081
St Pancras dep 1134 1D28 1134 St Pancras Nottingham 1313 NL088
St Pancras arr 1224 1B33 1045 Nottingham St Pancras 1224 NL084
St Pancras dep 1234 1D33 1234 St Pancras Nottingham 1412 NL085
St Pancras arr 1325 1B38 1145 Nottingham St Pancras 1325 NL083
St Pancras dep 1334 1D38 1334 St Pancras Nottingham 1512 NL084
St Pancras arr 1425 1B43 1245 Nottingham St Pancras 1425 NL087
St Pancras dep 1434 1D43 1434 St Pancras Nottingham 1612 NL083
St Pancras arr 1525 1B48 1345 Nottingham St Pancras 1525 NL088
St Pancras dep 1534 1D48 1534 St Pancras Nottingham 1712 NL087
St Pancras arr 1625 1C52 1400 Sheffield St Pancras 1625 DY021
St Pancras arr 1628 1B53 1445 Nottingham St Pancras 1628 NL085
St Pancras dep 1634 1D52 1634 St Pancras Nottingham 1820 NL088
St Pancras dep 1719 1D90 1719 St Pancras Derby 1957 NL082
St Pancras arr 1725 1B58 1545 Nottingham St Pancras 1725 NL084
St Pancras dep 1734 1D57 1734 St Pancras Nottingham 1920 NL081
St Pancras dep 1802 1??? 1802 St Pancras Sheffield 2002 ?????
St Pancras dep 1819 1??? 1819 St Pancras Sheffield 2047 ?????
St Pancras dep 1834 1D64 1834 St Pancras Leeds 2234 NL084
St Pancras arr 1835 1B63 1645 Nottingham St Pancras 1835 NL083
St Pancras dep 1904 1D66 1904 St Pancras Leeds 2249 NL083
St Pancras dep 1935 1F68 1935 St Pancras Derby 2130 NL086
St Pancras arr 1936 1B69 1745 Nottingham St Pancras 1936 NL087
St Pancras dep 2001 1F70 2001 St Pancras Leeds 2306 NL087
St Pancras arr 2025 1B74 1845 Nottingham St Pancras 2025 NL088
St Pancras dep 2031 1F72 2031 St Pancras Derby 2212 DY021
St Pancras arr 2125 1B79 1945 Nottingham St Pancras 2125 DY022
St Pancras arr 2138 1C80 1929 Sheffield St Pancras 2138 NL085
St Pancras dep 2200 1D81 2200 St Pancras Nottingham 0023 DY022
 

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I have merged the 125group and EMR timetable info to produce this list of HST weekday arrivals and departures at St Pancras. If you are in the know feel free to share if some trains are no longer HSTs.
St Pancras dep 0704 1D07 0704 St Pancras Nottingham 0901 NL081
St Pancras arr 0736 1B09 0532 Nottingham St Pancras 0736 NL084
St Pancras arr 0809 1C11 0531 Sheffield St Pancras 0809 NL082
St Pancras arr 0827 1C13 0600 Sheffield St Pancras 0827 NL086
St Pancras dep 0834 1D13 0834 St Pancras Nottingham 1016 NL084
St Pancras arr 0855 1C15 0519 Leeds St Pancras 0855 NL083
St Pancras arr 0909 1B16 0711 Nottingham St Pancras 0909 NL085
St Pancras dep 0934 1D18 0934 St Pancras Nottingham 1114 NL083
St Pancras arr 0942 1C18 0730 Derby St Pancras 0942 DY022 DY021
St Pancras arr 1004 1C22 0746 Sheffield St Pancras 1004 NL088
St Pancras dep 1005 1D21 1005 St Pancras Nottingham 1205 DY022DY021
St Pancras arr 1011 1B23 0634 Leeds St Pancras 1011 NL087
St Pancras dep 1034 1D23 1034 St Pancras Nottingham 1213 NL087
St Pancras arr 1125 1B28 0945 Nottingham St Pancras 1125 NL081
St Pancras dep 1134 1D28 1134 St Pancras Nottingham 1313 NL088
St Pancras arr 1224 1B33 1045 Nottingham St Pancras 1224 NL084
St Pancras dep 1234 1D33 1234 St Pancras Nottingham 1412 NL085
St Pancras arr 1325 1B38 1145 Nottingham St Pancras 1325 NL083
St Pancras dep 1334 1D38 1334 St Pancras Nottingham 1512 NL084
St Pancras arr 1425 1B43 1245 Nottingham St Pancras 1425 NL087
St Pancras dep 1434 1D43 1434 St Pancras Nottingham 1612 NL083
St Pancras arr 1525 1B48 1345 Nottingham St Pancras 1525 NL088
St Pancras dep 1534 1D48 1534 St Pancras Nottingham 1712 NL087
St Pancras arr 1625 1C52 1400 Sheffield St Pancras 1625 DY021 DY022
St Pancras arr 1628 1B53 1445 Nottingham St Pancras 1628 NL085
St Pancras dep 1634 1D52 1634 St Pancras Nottingham 1820 NL088
St Pancras dep 1719 1D90 1719 St Pancras Derby 1957 NL082 NL085
St Pancras arr 1725 1B58 1545 Nottingham St Pancras 1725 NL084
St Pancras dep 1734 1D57 1734 St Pancras Nottingham 1920 NL081
St Pancras dep 1802 1F60 1802 St Pancras Sheffield 2002 ????? 7/222
St Pancras dep 1819 1F63 1819 St Pancras Sheffield 2047 ????? NL082
St Pancras dep 1834 1D64 1834 St Pancras Leeds 2234 NL084
St Pancras arr 1835 1B63 1645 Nottingham St Pancras 1835 NL083
St Pancras dep 1904 1D66 1904 St Pancras Leeds 2249 NL083
St Pancras dep 1935 1F68 1935 St Pancras Derby 2130 NL086
St Pancras arr 1936 1B69 1745 Nottingham St Pancras 1936 NL087
St Pancras dep 2001 1F70 2001 St Pancras Leeds 2306 NL087
St Pancras arr 2025 1B74 1845 Nottingham St Pancras 2025 NL088
St Pancras dep 2031 1F72 2031 St Pancras Derby 2212 DY021DY022
St Pancras arr 2125 1B79 1945 Nottingham St Pancras 2125 DY022DY021
St Pancras arr 2138 1C80 1929 Sheffield St Pancras 2138 NL085 DY074 7/222
St Pancras dep 2200 1D81 2200 St Pancras Nottingham 0023 DY022DY021
I have updated a few diagram numbers here! 1F60 & 1C80 are 7 car 222's
A few mistakes in the EMR TT! I think the rest look ok.
 

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I have updated a few diagram numbers here! 1F60 & 1C80 are 7 car 222's
A few mistakes in the EMR TT! I think the rest look ok.
Thanks for your quick reply. Am going to London tomorrow and might have a look at St Pancras or just a little further north.
 

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I have merged the 125group and EMR timetable info to produce this list of HST weekday arrivals and departures at St Pancras. If you are in the know feel free to share if some trains are no longer HSTs.
St Pancras dep 0704 1D07 0704 St Pancras Nottingham 0901 NL081
St Pancras arr 0736 1B09 0532 Nottingham St Pancras 0736 NL084
St Pancras arr 0809 1C11 0531 Sheffield St Pancras 0809 NL082
St Pancras arr 0827 1C13 0600 Sheffield St Pancras 0827 NL086
St Pancras dep 0834 1D13 0834 St Pancras Nottingham 1016 NL084
St Pancras arr 0855 1C15 0519 Leeds St Pancras 0855 NL083
St Pancras arr 0909 1B16 0711 Nottingham St Pancras 0909 NL085
St Pancras dep 0934 1D18 0934 St Pancras Nottingham 1114 NL083
St Pancras arr 0942 1C18 0730 Derby St Pancras 0942 DY022
St Pancras arr 1004 1C22 0746 Sheffield St Pancras 1004 NL088
St Pancras dep 1005 1D21 1005 St Pancras Nottingham 1205 DY022
St Pancras arr 1011 1B23 0634 Leeds St Pancras 1011 NL087
St Pancras dep 1034 1D23 1034 St Pancras Nottingham 1213 NL087
St Pancras arr 1125 1B28 0945 Nottingham St Pancras 1125 NL081
St Pancras dep 1134 1D28 1134 St Pancras Nottingham 1313 NL088
St Pancras arr 1224 1B33 1045 Nottingham St Pancras 1224 NL084
St Pancras dep 1234 1D33 1234 St Pancras Nottingham 1412 NL085
St Pancras arr 1325 1B38 1145 Nottingham St Pancras 1325 NL083
St Pancras dep 1334 1D38 1334 St Pancras Nottingham 1512 NL084
St Pancras arr 1425 1B43 1245 Nottingham St Pancras 1425 NL087
St Pancras dep 1434 1D43 1434 St Pancras Nottingham 1612 NL083
St Pancras arr 1525 1B48 1345 Nottingham St Pancras 1525 NL088
St Pancras dep 1534 1D48 1534 St Pancras Nottingham 1712 NL087
St Pancras arr 1625 1C52 1400 Sheffield St Pancras 1625 DY021
St Pancras arr 1628 1B53 1445 Nottingham St Pancras 1628 NL085
St Pancras dep 1634 1D52 1634 St Pancras Nottingham 1820 NL088
St Pancras dep 1719 1D90 1719 St Pancras Derby 1957 NL082
St Pancras arr 1725 1B58 1545 Nottingham St Pancras 1725 NL084
St Pancras dep 1734 1D57 1734 St Pancras Nottingham 1920 NL081
St Pancras dep 1802 1??? 1802 St Pancras Sheffield 2002 ?????
St Pancras dep 1819 1??? 1819 St Pancras Sheffield 2047 ?????
St Pancras dep 1834 1D64 1834 St Pancras Leeds 2234 NL084
St Pancras arr 1835 1B63 1645 Nottingham St Pancras 1835 NL083
St Pancras dep 1904 1D66 1904 St Pancras Leeds 2249 NL083
St Pancras dep 1935 1F68 1935 St Pancras Derby 2130 NL086
St Pancras arr 1936 1B69 1745 Nottingham St Pancras 1936 NL087
St Pancras dep 2001 1F70 2001 St Pancras Leeds 2306 NL087
St Pancras arr 2025 1B74 1845 Nottingham St Pancras 2025 NL088
St Pancras dep 2031 1F72 2031 St Pancras Derby 2212 DY021
St Pancras arr 2125 1B79 1945 Nottingham St Pancras 2125 DY022
St Pancras arr 2138 1C80 1929 Sheffield St Pancras 2138 NL085
St Pancras dep 2200 1D81 2200 St Pancras Nottingham 0023 DY022

Surely worthy of an update on the frequently requested diagrams page if that's possible?
 

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I have updated a few diagram numbers here! 1F60 & 1C80 are 7 car 222's
A few mistakes in the EMR TT! I think the rest look ok.
DY021 is the diagram quoted on 125Group for the Corby working. 'Triumph' amended some of the quoted diagrams with some of the workings in DY021 moving to DY022 and vice-versa. On that basis I make diagram DY021 to be
1C18 0730 Derby St Pancras 0942
1D21 1005 St Pancras/ Nottingham 1205
1M40 1650 St Pancras Corby 1755
1P41 1837 Corby St Pancras 1957
1B79 1945 Nottingham St Pancras 2125
1D81 2200 St Pancras Nottingham 0023
This doesn't make sense as there is a missing Nottingham-St Pancras working and later it's working a Nottingham-St Pancras and Corby-St Pancras at the same time! Has DY021 really changed?

For the avoidance of doubt, I took this photo at Corby at 1800 tonight.
That is more than compelling evidence!
 
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DY021 is the diagram quoted on 125Group for the Corby working. 'Triumph' amended some of the quoted diagrams with some of the workings in DY021 moving to DY022 and vice-versa. On that basis I make diagram DY021 to be
1C18 0730 Derby St Pancras 0942
1D21 1005 St Pancras/ Nottingham 1205
1M40 1650 St Pancras Corby 1755
1P41 1837 Corby St Pancras 1957
1B79 1945 Nottingham St Pancras 2125
1D81 2200 St Pancras Nottingham 0023
This doesn't make sense as there is a missing Nottingham-St Pancras working and later it's working a Nottingham-St Pancras and Corby-St Pancras at the same time! Has DY021 really changed?

No that's 2 separate diagrams!
The 1650 Corby is formed off the arrival of the 1359 ex Sheffield service

DY022 is the 1945 Nottingham to St Pancras and 2200 return
 

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DY021 is the diagram quoted on 125Group for the Corby working. 'Triumph' amended some of the quoted diagrams with some of the workings in DY021 moving to DY022 and vice-versa. On that basis I make diagram DY021 to be
1C18 0730 Derby St Pancras 0942
1D21 1005 St Pancras/ Nottingham 1205
1M40 1650 St Pancras Corby 1755
1P41 1837 Corby St Pancras 1957
1B79 1945 Nottingham St Pancras 2125
1D81 2200 St Pancras Nottingham 0023
This doesn't make sense as there is a missing Nottingham-St Pancras working and later it's working a Nottingham-St Pancras and Corby-St Pancras at the same time! Has DY021 really changed?
Should be:
DY021:
1C18 0730 Derby St Pancras 0942
1D21 1005 St Pancras/ Nottingham 1205
Empty to Sheffield via Derby
1C52 1400 Sheffield St Pancras 1625
1M40 1650 St Pancras Corby 1755
1P41 1837 Corby St Pancras 1957
1F72 2031 St Pancras Derby 2217

DY022:
1B79 1945 Nottingham St Pancras 2125
1D81 2200 St Pancras Nottingham 0023
 

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Angel short set left Nottingham at 1945 for St Pancras this evening. 1B79.

I didn't note the power cars however.
 

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Should be:
DY021:
1C18 0730 Derby St Pancras 0942
1D21 1005 St Pancras/ Nottingham 1205
Empty to Sheffield via Derby
1C52 1400 Sheffield St Pancras 1625
1M40 1650 St Pancras Corby 1755
1P41 1837 Corby St Pancras 1957
1F72 2031 St Pancras Derby 2217

DY022:
1B79 1945 Nottingham St Pancras 2125
1D81 2200 St Pancras Nottingham 0023
Thank you, that makes more sense. I will re- issue my updated list, but not until tomorrow (Wed 15/1).
 

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Should be:
DY021:
1C18 0730 Derby St Pancras 0942
1D21 1005 St Pancras/ Nottingham 1205
Empty to Sheffield via Derby
1C52 1400 Sheffield St Pancras 1625
1M40 1650 St Pancras Corby 1755
1P41 1837 Corby St Pancras 1957
1F72 2031 St Pancras Derby 2217

DY022:
1B79 1945 Nottingham St Pancras 2125
1D81 2200 St Pancras Nottingham 0023
So, here is my updated list including the Corby workings and diagrams DY021/DY022:
St Pancras dep 0704 1D07 0704 St Pancras Nottingham 0901 NL081
St Pancras arr 0736 1B09 0532 Nottingham St Pancras 0736 NL084
St Pancras arr 0809 1C11 0531 Sheffield St Pancras 0809 NL082
St Pancras arr 0827 1C13 0600 Sheffield St Pancras 0827 NL086
St Pancras dep 0834 1D13 0834 St Pancras Nottingham 1016 NL084
St Pancras arr 0855 1C15 0519 Leeds St Pancras 0855 NL083
St Pancras arr 0909 1B16 0711 Nottingham St Pancras 0909 NL085
St Pancras dep 0934 1D18 0934 St Pancras Nottingham 1114 NL083
St Pancras arr 0942 1C18 0730 Derby St Pancras 0942 DY021
St Pancras arr 1004 1C22 0746 Sheffield St Pancras 1004 NL088
St Pancras dep 1005 1D21 1005 St Pancras Nottingham 1205 DY021
St Pancras arr 1011 1B23 0634 Leeds St Pancras 1011 NL087
St Pancras dep 1034 1D23 1034 St Pancras Nottingham 1213 NL087
St Pancras arr 1125 1B28 0945 Nottingham St Pancras 1125 NL081
St Pancras dep 1134 1D28 1134 St Pancras Nottingham 1313 NL088
St Pancras arr 1224 1B33 1045 Nottingham St Pancras 1224 NL084
St Pancras dep 1234 1D33 1234 St Pancras Nottingham 1412 NL085
St Pancras arr 1325 1B38 1145 Nottingham St Pancras 1325 NL083
St Pancras dep 1334 1D38 1334 St Pancras Nottingham 1512 NL084
St Pancras arr 1425 1B43 1245 Nottingham St Pancras 1425 NL087
St Pancras dep 1434 1D43 1434 St Pancras Nottingham 1612 NL083
St Pancras arr 1525 1B48 1345 Nottingham St Pancras 1525 NL088
St Pancras dep 1534 1D48 1534 St Pancras Nottingham 1712 NL087
St Pancras arr 1625 1C52 1400 Sheffield St Pancras 1625 DY021
St Pancras arr 1628 1B53 1445 Nottingham St Pancras 1628 NL085
St Pancras dep 1634 1D52 1634 St Pancras Nottingham 1820 NL088
St Pancras dep 1650 1M40 1650 St Pancras Corby 1755 DY021
St Pancras dep 1719 1D90 1719 St Pancras Derby 1957 NL085
St Pancras arr 1725 1B58 1545 Nottingham St Pancras 1725 NL084
St Pancras dep 1734 1D57 1734 St Pancras Nottingham 1920 NL081
St Pancras dep 1819 1F63 1819 St Pancras Sheffield 2047 NL082
St Pancras dep 1834 1D64 1834 St Pancras Leeds 2234 NL084
St Pancras arr 1835 1B63 1645 Nottingham St Pancras 1835 NL083
St Pancras dep 1904 1D66 1904 St Pancras Leeds 2249 NL083
St Pancras dep 1935 1F68 1935 St Pancras Derby 2130 NL086
St Pancras arr 1936 1B69 1745 Nottingham St Pancras 1936 NL087
St Pancras arr 1957 1P41 1837 Corby St Pancras 1957 DY021
St Pancras dep 2001 1F70 2001 St Pancras Leeds 2306 NL087
St Pancras arr 2025 1B74 1845 Nottingham St Pancras 2025 NL088
St Pancras dep 2031 1F72 2031 St Pancras Derby 2212 DY021
St Pancras arr 2125 1B79 1945 Nottingham St Pancras 2125 DY022
St Pancras dep 2200 1D81 2200 St Pancras Nottingham 0023 DY022
 

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Don't you think they will do a sooner swap to a 180 on that diagram? I've heard it said the Angle Trains short HST sets are not the most reliable of the fleet, which if the case would suggest an impetus to swap at least those sets now the 180s have moved from Hull Trains.

Obv I realise the irony of talking about reliable HSs in the context of 180 DMUs but...
 

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And here's a short video I made of 43043 leaving Nottingham for Leeds 22/11/2019 21:09:
 
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