I could see an extra order for stadlers from GA. It would make more sense than an extra mini fleet of Hitachis.
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are there any options for additional stock that could be exercised?
Don't forget it was mentioned that it was the Commercial part of GA that ordered the trains, the Ops side had no input, not even sure if they knew the details even, so maybe the Office peeps thought the amount was enough ! ?
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Any contact between the current operator and franchise team during preparation of any franchise bid is forbidden. Even if the two elements are effectively from the same owning group. Get caught and that's effectively the end of the franchise bid.
Good thinking. If memory serves, immediately after electrification, class 86 hauled mk 2 trains were timed at 1hr 40m stopping at Colchester and Ipswich. So would it be possible for a FLIRT to do that in 1hr 30m?
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It may be forbidden, but almost impossible to enforce.
Do you really think that every single incumbent that has ever bid for a franchise, has never used the lessons and the experience that it has learnt running the same line in the past?
dk1
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That
That wasn't after electrification in 1987, it started with the half hourly Norwich trains introduced by Anglia around 2000. They where the XX00 from London and XX40 from Norwich.
Rather like the so-called "Chinese Walls" introduced to separate various functions in the financial services industry after the "Big Bang" of the 1980s!
Does that stop you transferring someone fresh out of ops into the bid team?
WroxhamTroll
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Any news on a second set entering service? and which diagram(s) are operating as 745's this week?
If there is a way for me to find out on diagrams I would love to know (not too lazy to look myself).
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If there is a way for me to find out on diagrams I would love to know (not too lazy to look myself).
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dk1
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006 is rumoured to be next in line but to no confirmed diagram.
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The Norwich in 90 timings are based on a single stop at Ipswich, so adding a second stop at Ipswich would add 3 to 4 mins. The timings South of Colchester are not too ambitious as there are lots of slower trains being pathed in front. Difficult to speed up the service without looping a slower service.
RailWonderer
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GA still doesn’t loop well enough.
The 09:05 ex-Clacton gets looped at Shenfield between 10:06 and 10:12 yet the preceding Southend at 10:06 which is a 321 gets priority and often holds up the Ni90. Why not let the 360 go first and run it non-stop and for people on the ex-Clacton that need Stratford, they could change to the Southend on the adjacent platform and get looped? Would have been a better solution than let a clearly superior 360 get looped while a bin holds up the IC.
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Agreed
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Disagree. If I’ve understood correctly, that appears to mean holding the up Southend train for 7 minutes at Shenfield to follow the Norwich train. With a whole load of consequential platform alterations at Liverpool St that may work, or may not.
Anyway back to the 745s, having done three trips on them now. All were on time (not difficult) and comfortable enough. With the Mk3 fleet past its best their time is up, although the Mk3 FO is still an excellent vehicle to travel in for a few more months.
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Just seen a 745 on the point, a PIS test was in place and it had Lowestoft as a code despite being electric only Lowestoft would never see one. Standardisation at its best!!
Anonymous10
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I just saw this thread and was wondering if tfw will be using these
Yes they will be using units more alike the similar Class 755.
samuelmorris
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In a word, no. However, their class 756 and 231 units will be similar to the class 755.
Anonymous10
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AHH ok thanks
rdlover777
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Funny enough, the Class 231 appears to just be the 755/4 without a pantograph if you go off the concept art, the 756s seems to have a door layout on par with the 777
samuelmorris
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Pretty much what I expected though, no reason to do otherwise really. But that's for another thread
samuelmorris
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Raced 007 through Manor Park on a 315 this morning. "Here's what you could have won!" 
Has it all gone smoothly so far with this unit?
Has it all gone smoothly so far with this unit?
dk1
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Very much so.Raced 007 through Manor Park on a 315 this morning. "Here's what you could have won!"
Has it all gone smoothly so far with this unit?
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Seems to have zero TINs after 2 weeks, so that gives the Class 745 fleet an industry leading MTIN of ∞
That should jinx it.
Whose idea was it to make the emergency alarm a big green button right next to the toilet? Surely the internationally recognised colour for an alarm is red? I can see some lifting flap covers being put over those in due course.
And I’ve just hit my head on the luggage shelf while sitting down in one of the raised areas. Ouch!
And I’ve just hit my head on the luggage shelf while sitting down in one of the raised areas. Ouch!
Bletchleyite
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Actually green for passcom and red for emergency brake is about as close to a standard as it gets. CAF have followed the same.
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