• Our booking engine at tickets.railforums.co.uk (powered by TrainSplit) helps support the running of the forum with every ticket purchase! Find out more and ask any questions/give us feedback in this thread!

Greater Anglia Rolling Stock Updates

Status
Not open for further replies.

Astro_Orbiter

Member
Joined
8 Nov 2019
Messages
281
Location
UK
Did the 379 do Hertford east services aswell
No, there was 2 units on the LVR, one 8 car 317 and an 8 car 379.
They had 379 on the fast Broxbourne trains and 317 on the Hertford trains. I have seen 379 recently on a few unusual jobs, such as Hertford's, Stratford's and a lot of Cambridge's.
 
Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; click here to register, or click here to log in
R

RailUK Forums

superjohn

Member
Joined
11 Mar 2011
Messages
531
Three consecutive southbound cancellations on the East Suffolk from Saxmundham this morning, including the 0814 I was due to catch. I drove to Stowmarket instead. There seem to be multiple cancellations on both rural and main line, shown for various reasons. One of them is shown as due to trains trapped in the depot which would seem most likely to be true. There was a brief line closure between Colchester and Manningtree very early on but I can’t see how that would have such an impact on the rural lines.

Now on the 0947 up from Ipswich which is 8 car class 321. The preceding NiN non stop was cancelled so it is quite cosy.

Do we know why the morning Harwich to Cambridge service is so frequently cancelled. Are the 755’s not cleared on the branch?
 

86246

Member
Joined
18 Sep 2013
Messages
326
The NiN had a 26 minute late start from Norwich and will not call at Ipswich.

They have quite frequently started the Harwich - Cambridge service from Ipswich for some time when there have been unit shortages.
 

Bernina

New Member
Joined
14 Dec 2019
Messages
2
Location
Baden, Switzerland
Three consecutive southbound cancellations on the East Suffolk from Saxmundham this morning, including the 0814 I was due to catch. I drove to Stowmarket instead. There seem to be multiple cancellations on both rural and main line, shown for various reasons. One of them is shown as due to trains trapped in the depot which would seem most likely to be true. There was a brief line closure between Colchester and Manningtree very early on but I can’t see how that would have such an impact on the rural lines.

Now on the 0947 up from Ipswich which is 8 car class 321. The preceding NiN non stop was cancelled so it is quite cosy.

Do we know why the morning Harwich to Cambridge service is so frequently cancelled. Are the 755’s not cleared on the branch?

As per GA website there is a points failure between Manningtree and Ipswich, End of disruption expected until 13 00
 

ashkeba

Established Member
Joined
13 May 2019
Messages
2,171
Do we know why the morning Harwich to Cambridge service is so frequently cancelled.
That service looked unreliable whenever I have looked at using it, long before the rolling stock changes. The evening one is only slightly better. It seems like Abellio don't want more passengers leaving their Anglia network and enjoying the NS experience. Things have fallen a long way since the Hook European (and the London-bound Hook Continental) were highlighted named trains.
 

superjohn

Member
Joined
11 Mar 2011
Messages
531
The NiN passed through Stratford shortly after I got off the 0903 ex Norwich. It didn’t manage ninety even when non stop, I guess it was out of path though.

All three East Suffolk cancellations are now showing as “problem at the depot” which I think was probably the case in some form. The lines at Manningtree were reopened fairly quickly and the only consequences by the time I travelled were likely to be the return workings of northbound trains that couldn’t get through while they were blocked.

The Harwich does seem to be cancelled south of Ipswich more often than not at the moment. I suppose it frees up a unit at peak times and passengers to/from Harwich can make the journey via Manningtree without huge delay. As with the Peterborough services, they are cancelling where alternatives exist.
 
Last edited:

ashkeba

Established Member
Joined
13 May 2019
Messages
2,171
The Harwich does seem to be cancelled south of Ipswich more often than not at the moment. I suppose it frees up a unit at peak times and passengers to/from Harwich can make the journey via Manningtree without huge delay. As with the Peterborough services, they are cancelling where alternatives exist.
Or in full: alternatives exist and who cares about any ferry passengers with luggage who must cart it across stations at Ipswich and Manningtree (usually involving lifts or stairs at one) because as long as the delay is less than thirty minutes, inconveniencing them has no financial cost, only a reputational one. Growl.
 

superjohn

Member
Joined
11 Mar 2011
Messages
531
I agree the current service is unacceptable but for those on the ground, between a rock and a hard place, it is the least disruptive option.

Foot passengers heading north off the ferry are usually in single figures in my occasional observations. If a train has to be cancelled it is better that one than one full of Ipswich commuters and students coming off one of the branches at that time of day.

By definition, the option that gives the least delay repay liability is the one that inconveniences the fewest passengers.
 

Paulie558

Member
Joined
17 Aug 2019
Messages
17
Location
Norwich
Or in full: alternatives exist and who cares about any ferry passengers with luggage who must cart it across stations at Ipswich and Manningtree (usually involving lifts or stairs at one) because as long as the delay is less than thirty minutes, inconveniencing them has no financial cost, only a reputational one. Growl.
Remember making the trip in the 80's with dear old Sealink and there would be corridor trains waiting at Parkston to whisk people to Wales or Glasgow!
 

gingerheid

Established Member
Joined
2 Apr 2006
Messages
1,496
Ah yes, the same signalling problem that discriminates solely against Greater Anglia but allows all other TOCs and FOCs to pass through with ease! :lol:

I'm sure this could happen. I read about things a little bit like this (though not exactly the same) in a series of books when I was younger.

Also, I wonder what the delay code for troublesome trucks is.
 

ashkeba

Established Member
Joined
13 May 2019
Messages
2,171
Foot passengers heading north off the ferry are usually in single figures in my occasional observations. If a train has to be cancelled it is better that one than one full of Ipswich commuters and students coming off one of the branches at that time of day.
I do not agree that cancelling the only through service connecting with that ferry (turning it into one with multiple not-same-platform changes) is better than slightly inconveniencing commuters by them having to wait for the next of their more frequent trains, but it is not about rolling stock so I have moved it to https://www.railforums.co.uk/thread...present-and-future.189175/page-6#post-4382943
 

dk1

Veteran Member
Joined
2 Oct 2009
Messages
15,962
Location
East Anglia
The Harwich does seem to be cancelled south of Ipswich more often than not at the moment. I suppose it frees up a unit at peak times and passengers to/from Harwich can make the journey via Manningtree without huge delay. As with the Peterborough services, they are cancelling where alternatives exist.
Loadings are very very light indeed on the evening Harwich extensions.
 

153375

Member
Joined
1 Apr 2015
Messages
69
Location
Boston
Joined
8 Dec 2007
Messages
474
From a flickr photograph dated 1st January, 2020:

Day 2 of the tin rocket convoys bringing ex-Greater Anglia class 153s to south Wales and their new life with Transport for Wales. saw two units - 153335 + 153306, passing through Cardiff Central, en-route to Landore Depot, Swansea.
 

physics34

Established Member
Joined
1 Dec 2013
Messages
3,700
Cant find a class 90 thread... 90014 made its way from Norwich to Crewe today behind a large logo 37.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Top