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Blackpool South and Colne are never gonna see any decent units :(
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They might see 195s later. I believe the idea of 2-car units was so they could be cascaded to the branches on further electrification being completed.

To be fair (and there's another thread for detailed discussion on that) I suspect Blackpool South is likely to see newish units, but they will look like this:

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Modern Blackpool tram

...with Colne being operated as a Colne-Preston-Ormskirk-Preston-Colne circuit. That said, if Merseyrail ever goes to Preston...
 
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Could all platforms east of Rose Grove cope with even a 2-car 195?
Burnley Barracks in particular is very short(?)
 
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Wtloild said:
Could all platforms east of Rose Grove cope with even a 2-car 195?
Burnley Barracks in particular is very short(?)
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Regardless of the platform length im pretty sure the 195's are capable of having certain doors locked out of use when at platforms
 
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Bletchleyite said:
They might see 195s later. I believe the idea of 2-car units was so they could be cascaded to the branches on further electrification being completed.

To be fair (and there's another thread for detailed discussion on that) I suspect Blackpool South is likely to see newish units, but they will look like this:

Blackpool_Tram_c._George-Standen.jpg

Modern Blackpool tram

...with Colne being operated as a Colne-Preston-Ormskirk-Preston-Colne circuit. That said, if Merseyrail ever goes to Preston...
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It's a good idea to break up the services, single units on Colne - Ormskirk services allowing doubles for Blackpool South without the waste of carrying around a locked out of use unit across Lancashire for a little used branch
 
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Kite159 said:
It's a good idea to break up the services, single units on Colne - Ormskirk services allowing doubles for Blackpool South without the waste of carrying around a locked out of use unit across Lancashire for a little used branch
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Not sure how busy the Burnley to Colne stretch is, but the Preston-Blackburn-Accrington stretch has been very overcrowded whenever I've used this line.
 
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Kite159 said:
It's a good idea to break up the services, single units on Colne - Ormskirk services allowing doubles for Blackpool South without the waste of carrying around a locked out of use unit across Lancashire for a little used branch
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The Ormskirk line can handle 4 car sets, at least of Pacers (I don't know about 23m units).
 
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Wtloild said:
Not sure how busy the Burnley to Colne stretch is, but the Preston-Blackburn-Accrington stretch has been very overcrowded whenever I've used this line.
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Maybe extend the Blackpool South services to Blackburn, calling at maybe Bamber Bridge along the way.

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The Ormskirk line can handle 4 car sets, at least of Pacers (I don't know about 23m units).
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It was the Colne branch I was using as carrying around a locked out of use unit
 
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They've been almost exclusively 142's for the last 30 years, however they're pretty rare now which is strange. 150/156 combinations yesterday with the back unit locked out.
 
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195s going on Piccadilly-Rose Hill from March so I believe, so you just never know about Colne etc., although no Blackburn drivers are trained on 195s and Blackburn drivers work most of the Colnes these days.
 
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195s going on Piccadilly-Rose Hill from March so I believe
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Interesting, that's rather a change, and for the positive, too. 195s will make a significant difference to timekeeping on city stopping services with their EMU-like acceleration - that's the Brum Snow Hill Lines model and it works well.

Why the change of heart, though? Weren't they going to be for Northern Connect only?
 
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Is Northern Connect even a thing any more? The only place I hear about it is on here.
 
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But Northern Connect included several new links that appear to have no chance of happening (Bradford- Airport, Bradford- Nottingham, Bradford- Liverpool and Newcastle- Middlesbrough via Stillington). Maybe that have just had a rethink and given up on NC which in any case hasn't actually been launched yet
 
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But Northern Connect included several new links that appear to have no chance of happening (Bradford- Airport, Bradford- Nottingham, Bradford- Liverpool and Newcastle- Middlesbrough via Stillington). Maybe that have just had a rethink and given up on NC which in any case hasn't actually been launched yet
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I imagine getting rid of Pacers and overcrowding takes priority over aspirational stuff....
 
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Is Northern Connect even a thing any more? The only place I hear about it is on here.
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There's still a page about it on Northern's website, but it hasn't been updated for ages. No doubt that's taking a chunk out of Arriva's revenue projections on top of everything else going on. It would be disappointing if the idea of any decent standard or marketing for Northern's longer distance services was permanently abandoned.
 
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Llama said:
195s going on Piccadilly-Rose Hill from March so I believe, so you just never know about Colne etc., although no Blackburn drivers are trained on 195s and Blackburn drivers work most of the Colnes these days.
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Do you know which services the Blackpool crews operate?
It's very rare I see them down here on the colne branch anymore so it would be nice to find out what they work so I can catch up with them! :)

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Not too sure to be honest, I haven't got the Blackpool or Blackburn diagrams. I believe Blackpool drivers only do a few Colnes at the most now.
 
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There's still a page about it on Northern's website, but it hasn't been updated for ages. No doubt that's taking a chunk out of Arriva's revenue projections on top of everything else going on. It would be disappointing if the idea of any decent standard or marketing for Northern's longer distance services was permanently abandoned.
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Also a(nother) franchise breach, no?
 
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