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LNER Azuma (Class 800/801)

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3 damaged coaches have been shipped back to Kasado, Japan, the remainder of set is at Doncaster Carr Depot.
I wouldn’t be surprised if three replacements are constructed and magically come back with the same vehicle numbers.
 

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They may have more diesels than before, but two of the new ones have either not been accepted yet or are accident damaged. The advantage of an HST was that if one power car was damaged you could put a replacement on, rather than losing the entire set.

They also, of course, used to have the ability to hire in an HST set (or even two) from EMT on Saturdays.
Of course the HST's have gone and been replaced with 800/1, there's only 11 of these currently and the number of Class 91s sets withdrawn is more than the number of Class 801 nine cars available for service hence 5-car services common. According to a recent issue of Today's Railway UK the only services supposed to be booked for single 5-car sets are the Lincoln services.
 

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To be fair to them, I'm doing a huge amount of travel on LNER at the moment and in the last two months haven't had a single problem caused by IET availability or reliability. I don't do Lincoln, and very rarely Leeds, but King's Cross, York, Newcastle, Sunderland, Edinburgh, Glasgow, Aberdeen and Inverness have all been spot on as far as the train itself is concerned. Not one sawn off 5 car unit has turned up, although I see that I'm booked on one 5+5 later this week, so maybe my luck is about to run out.

This is more than I can say for Transpennine and their use of the train type.

My only slight complaint is that I've usually found the cabin a bit cool for the time of year, but I've totally got over my dislike of the seats.
 

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Had the opportunity to use a TPE 80x today.

I thought the first seats were more comfortable than the Azuma ones.

The ride was just as noisy and lots of lateral movement, but I presume the bogies etc are the same.
 

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My only slight complaint is that I've usually found the cabin a bit cool for the time of year,
Yes I have noticed the same. If you are travelling for much more than an hour, you start to notice it. The temperature setting should be turned up. I didn't notice the same problem on the mark 4 or mark 3 coaches in the past.
 

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I saw the inside of a driver cab on an Azuma this morning...I never realized how spacious they actually were! I thought I had walked into an episode of Dr Who :D

Out of interest why does the control panel have a plug socket (and what looked to be USB ports) available? Are the guards / drivers allowed to charge up their phones in there?
 

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Interesting to see seat covers on some of the end seats, with instructions to use then for luggage rather than sitting.

Not sure whether I saw that in a 5 or 9, but definitely a bi-mode.
 

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Interesting to see seat covers on some of the end seats, with instructions to use then for luggage rather than sitting.

Not sure whether I saw that in a 5 or 9, but definitely a bi-mode.

It's just the 9 car Azumas. Those seats will be replaced by luggage racks in the coming months.
 

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I saw the inside of a driver cab on an Azuma this morning...I never realized how spacious they actually were! I thought I had walked into an episode of Dr Who :D

Out of interest why does the control panel have a plug socket (and what looked to be USB ports) available? Are the guards / drivers allowed to charge up their phones in there?
I saw the inside a few weeks ago. Yes, the space looks huge although I have no other cab to compare it to.
 

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I saw the inside of a driver cab on an Azuma this morning...I never realized how spacious they actually were! I thought I had walked into an episode of Dr Who :D

Out of interest why does the control panel have a plug socket (and what looked to be USB ports) available? Are the guards / drivers allowed to charge up their phones in there?
Pm

It is for the drivers work Ipads. It is optional of they use it, and can be used as a driver advisory system for speeds etc.
It has the calling points, if train is early or late can advise to coast and ease off on speed etc.
 

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I saw the inside of a driver cab on an Azuma this morning...I never realized how spacious they actually were! I thought I had walked into an episode of Dr Who :D

Out of interest why does the control panel have a plug socket (and what looked to be USB ports) available? Are the guards / drivers allowed to charge up their phones in there?
Presumably someone decided that drivers would do it anyway, so better to provide official means of doing so than to have them using charging points in the passenger saloon. It also makes a lot of sense if they (or other crew whose duties take them into the cab) using any kind of portable electronic equipment in the course of their duties - which presumably includes a mobile phone, but could be any number of other things. Even if it's just for specialised engineering diagnostic systems, using a USB port is probably cheaper than designing a bespoke connection!
 

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Even if it's just for specialised engineering diagnostic systems, using a USB port is probably cheaper than designing a bespoke connection!
Bit off topic, but would TMS etc be considered a security risk and therefore not have standard connections? Lots of IT issues come via USB ports....
 

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Bit off topic, but would TMS etc be considered a security risk and therefore not have standard connections? Lots of IT issues come via USB ports....
Probably cheaper to have the USB ports leading to the train systems behind a locked panel - though other standardised connectors are of course available!
 

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Now sitting on an Azuma.

Pretty much the same as the 802 I was on last week, although with seemingly better acceleration, and improved ride quality.
 

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Had my first Azuma on the way back from York yesterday, with a 91 on the way there.
I found the Azuma quite comfortable, I think the seats will soften with use like they did on 395s, the ride was fine and no worse than the 91, but a bit noisier (I think the aircon was the issue, although I was also sat under the pan).
 

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Yesterday standard class passenger door at far end of the train (one nearest the driver cab) was out of use. Hopefully a one off.
 

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How many of the Azumas are in service now? Off to Doncaster on Monday for the first time in a while, and want to gauge just how many I'm likely to see.
 

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How many of the Azumas are in service now? Off to Doncaster on Monday for the first time in a while, and want to gauge just how many I'm likely to see.

All of the 5 car 800/2s and 5 car 801/1s.

800102-800113 all in use (800109 out of service due to Neville Hill accident, and 800101 is due to leave Eastleigh on Monday and start it's fault free running.

801203/205/207/209/211/213/217 all accepted and in service.
 
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Yesterday standard class passenger door at far end of the train (one nearest the driver cab) was out of use. Hopefully a one off.

At certain stations it will be locked out of use. Aberdeen and Inverness for example. There is no door control panel at that door so it is to stop people running for it mid despatch and causing delayed departures.
 

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At certain stations it will be locked out of use. Aberdeen and Inverness for example. There is no door control panel at that door so it is to stop people running for it mid despatch and causing delayed departures.

That door should not be locked out.
Only doors locked out, will be those preauthorised and set up by the Selective Door Operation system, ie those doors that are off the end of platforms.
 

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Random question, when the Azumas get diverted via Cambridge (like today), do they run on electric as far as Ely before changing over to diesel for the section towards Peterborough, or do they have to change to diesel before hand due to power limitations north of Cambridge?
 

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Random question, when the Azumas get diverted via Cambridge (like today), do they run on electric as far as Ely before changing over to diesel for the section towards Peterborough, or do they have to change to diesel before hand due to power limitations north of Cambridge?

think they run on diesel from the Cross to Peterborough... not sure they are cleared on electric over the Cambridge route.
 

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Random question, when the Azumas get diverted via Cambridge (like today), do they run on electric as far as Ely before changing over to diesel for the section towards Peterborough, or do they have to change to diesel before hand due to power limitations north of Cambridge?

Reported elsewhere that they change over near Royston.
 
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