PHILIPE
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37025 can not work the trains as it not ETS fitted. Probably find one of them will have to be unit worked on Monday
It's odd because the latest issue of RAIL said that the Mark 2's have a derogation until 30th June 2020.I know that but we're not in February yet, but I mean now that 025 has overheated is it still in service? if not what loco is taking over?
37025 can not work the trains as it not ETS fitted. Probably find one of them will have to be unit worked on Monday
It can work the trains, it has before, will just be NB.
Yes, it can work trains but I meant not on a cold frosty February morning or lights
Isn't no lights a problem in Caerphilly tunnel, and not just in February?Yes, it can work trains but I meant not on a cold frosty February morning or no lights
Just because they have a derrogation it doesn’t mean it has to be used.It's odd because the latest issue of RAIL said that the Mark 2's have a derogation until 30th June 2020.
I should think that even a 4 car set of all 153s would still match the timings of a 37. Whilst they may be sluggish, the 37s hardly set the world on fire either, and dispatch should be slightly quicker on a train with actual power doors, rather then doors powered by big burly security folk.
37418 has failed at Lisvane, lost all of its coolant and everything's on stop.
Are there enough working engines to keep the service going?
TfW must be desperate to get rid of these 37s now
They can't get those extra 153s into service fast enough
Will they still be running during February half term week?Word is that the 37s are finishing within a few weeks.
Supposedly being replaced by 153s at the beginning of February. As mentioned in another thread, the imported units have a two hour driving limit so they are no use on most main line diagrams. I don't know whether the ex EMR units are the same.Word is that the 37s are finishing within a few weeks.
Supposedly being replaced by 153s at the beginning of February. As mentioned in another thread, the imported units have a two hour driving limit so they are no use on most main line diagrams. I don't know whether the ex EMR units are the same.
It's to do with the unions objecting to drivers spending more than 2 hours driving themThat's a first for me - 2-hour driving limit. Does that mean that drivers can't spend more than 2 hours on it or is that the engines have to be turned off for a short while every 2 hours?
They do longer than that on the Heart Of Wales line - is it a different style of driving seat on them ?It's to do with the unions objecting to drivers spending more than 2 hours driving them
It's something to do with the cabs in the recently imported 153s not being up to the same standard as the ex-ATW 153sThey do longer than that on the Heart Of Wales line - is it a different style of driving seat on them ?
They do longer than that on the Heart Of Wales line - is it a different style of driving seat on them ?
Thanks, interesting to note.It's something to do with the cabs in the recently imported 153s not being up to the same standard as the ex-ATW 153s
Thanks for the explanation.All original TFW ones and some of the ex GWR ones (having been modified) are OK. Drivers do not work the whole length of the HOWL as they change over with a train in he opposite direction. Unmodified ones have been kept off HOWL workings.
This issue has nothing to do with Rhymney 153s as the journey time is only just over an hour
All original TFW ones and some of the ex GWR ones (having been modified) are OK. Drivers do not work the whole length of the HOWL as they change over with a train in he opposite direction. Unmodified ones have been kept off HOWL workings.
This issue has nothing to do with Rhymney 153s as the journey time is only just over an hour
Excellent explanation - thanks for all replies, I’m down in Wales from Scotland last week in February/early March so looks like the 37s will be away when I’m in the south which is a pity, I’ll get the WAG to the north, only £66 first class to Holyhead is superb value,and do some hillwalking and a couple of rides of the Hhd loco stock. Cheers.It becomes an issue if the driver works the return trip immediately on a unit with the same cab problems. If the unit is working solo, or attached to a formation where at the end is another similarly afflicted unit, it can effectively only work 1 hour long journeys if the same driver works the return trip. In the case of the HOWL, one unit on there would be fine, but if both units were unmodified then you would run into problems as when the units cross the drivers would need a break before they could work the return services.
The Rhymney loco diagrams are fine to be worked with unmodified units as they're only a single 1 hour trip and a little bit of ECS working at a time, but they wouldn't be able to work by themselves on the all day diagrams where it's common for the same driver to be bouncing up and down between Rhymney/Bargoed and Penarth for several hours at a time.