Progress of delivery of cascaded/refurbished/PRM modified stock to TFW/Wales and Borders

Anonymous10 · 19 Jan 2020

anamyd said:
Hasn't what been repainted...?

@Caaardiff thanks for the reply and I'm with you on the 769s and 230s (or lack of)...

I mean the 153's they got

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anamyd · 20 Jan 2020

Anonymous10 said:
I mean the 153's they got

Depends which ones you're on about...? On page 1 of the Transport for Wales Livery thread there's a list of the TfW Rail fleet with their last known states including liveries.

Anonymous10 · 20 Jan 2020

anamyd said:
Depends which ones you're on about...? On page 1 of the Transport for Wales Livery thread there's a list of the TfW Rail fleet with their last known states including liveries.

I mean the new ones which were delivered this week

anamyd · 20 Jan 2020

Anonymous10 said:
I mean the new ones which were delivered this week

None have been delivered this week to my knowledge, but 3 were moved on from Crewe to Landore last week; it looks like those are still in East Midlands Trains livery. Bear in mind that the ex-GA and ex-EMR 153s are on temporary lease from Porterbrook that expires on 31/12/2020 (well, I'm assuming that based on the expiry of their dispensation permission) whereas the ex-ATW and ex-GWR 153s are staying until 2022-23 and those are in the process of being repainted/refurbished/PRM'd/WSP'd.

Rhydgaled · 21 Jan 2020

Caaardiff said:
Whats more concerning is what happens if the 769's & 230's aren't in service by June. It's less than 6 months away and they haven't even been delivered and tested yet.

Not tested I grant you, but remember that some 769s were delivered to Canton. It was 2 in Canton at one point, but there have been some movements since. Is it two 769s in Cardiff now or three (or even just one)? anamyd's list has three 769s down as delivered to Canton, but did the first two have to be sent back for exhast pipe gauging issues to be fixed?

PHILIPE · 21 Jan 2020

Rhydgaled said:
Not tested I grant you, but remember that some 769s were delivered to Canton. It was 2 in Canton at one point, but there have been some movements since. Is it two 769s in Cardiff now or three (or even just one)? anamyd's list has three 769s down as delivered to Canton, but did the first two have to be sent back for exhast pipe gauging issues to be fixed?

If you can unravel it you should find info in this thread:-

https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/transport-for-wales-769s.179770/page-9

PHILIPE · 23 Jan 2020

153314 153322 153306 and 153309 moved from Canton to Landore in two separate moves yesterday.

anamyd · 23 Jan 2020

PHILIPE said:
153314 153322 153306 and 153309 moved from Canton to Landore in two separate moves yesterday.

thanks but I wonder why...?

PHILIPE · 23 Jan 2020

anamyd said:
thanks but I wonder why...?

Either for Chrysalis to help out TFW with their workload with all the new arrivals or to make room at Canton.

Anonymous10 · 24 Jan 2020

PHILIPE said:
Either for Chrysalis to help out TFW with their workload with all the new arrivals or to make room at Canton.

If they are being used in West Wales maybe they are moving for that ??

PHILIPE · 24 Jan 2020

Anonymous10 said:
If they are being used in West Wales maybe they are moving for that ??

No, Landore under Chrysalis is a Workshop and not a Maintenance/Servicing Depot

Rhydgaled · 24 Jan 2020

PHILIPE said:
No, Landore under Chrysalis is a Workshop and not a Maintenance/Servicing Depot

Is Landore big enough to accomodate both Chrysalis' operations and a TfW servicing depot? Not saying that's what's happening, just wondering for the future...

Sion John · 24 Jan 2020

Rhydgaled said:
Is Landore big enough to accomodate both Chrysalis' operations and a TfW servicing depot? Not saying that's what's happening, just wondering for the future...

I thought there was a talk about it

tomos dafis · 24 Jan 2020

Anonymous10 said:
If they are being used in West Wales maybe they are moving for that ??

I changed trains at Swansea yesterday on a journey to Fishguard. No 153's seen outside Landore so must be inside the workshop, 2 ex Northern 142's in sidings there. Didn't notice any 153's on West Wales services, passed 175's on West Wales- Manchester runs (but the Pembroke Dock branch was closed for engineering work). Plenty of pacers though working West Wales to and through Swansea. Whilst I waited there were 3 pacers standing in Swansea station at the same time. A class 143 was there on a Milford Haven to Cardiff central service, a 142 was waiting to work a Swanline stopper back to Cardiff central, and none other than 142073 (reports of its demise were premature!) was waiting to work my trip from Swansea to Fishguard and it worked the full journey back from Fishgaurd to Cardiff central - so 142 073 lives on and worked the "express" boat train and delivered me safely, after a noisy and lively ride at line speed, spot on time to Fishguard.

Sion John · 25 Jan 2020

tomos dafis said:
I changed trains at Swansea yesterday on a journey to Fishguard. No 153's seen outside Landore so must be inside the workshop, 2 ex Northern 142's in sidings there. Didn't notice any 153's on West Wales services, passed 175's on West Wales- Manchester runs (but the Pembroke Dock branch was closed for engineering work). Plenty of pacers though working West Wales to and through Swansea. Whilst I waited there were 3 pacers standing in Swansea station at the same time. A class 143 was there on a Milford Haven to Cardiff central service, a 142 was waiting to work a Swanline stopper back to Cardiff central, and none other than 142073 (reports of its demise were premature!) was waiting to work my trip from Swansea to Fishguard and it worked the full journey back from Fishgaurd to Cardiff central - so 142 073 lives on and worked the "express" boat train and delivered me safely, after a noisy and lively ride at line speed, spot on time to Fishguard.

The 06.30 from man picc to Milford haven is booked to be a 158 now Monday to Saturday. TFW is senting too many pacers .shame the 09.09 from Milford haven to cardiff central and 16.04 from Cardiff central to fishguard harbour because there the same unit parks in canton from 11am to 4pm shame it can't be a 150

PHILIPE · 25 Jan 2020

Sion John said:
The 06.30 from man picc to Milford haven is booked to be a 158 now Monday to Saturday. TFW is senting too many pacers .shame the 09.09 from Milford haven to cardiff central and 16.04 from Cardiff central to fishguard harbour because there the same unit parks in canton from 11am to 4pm shame it can't be a 150

150s are having priority for the Cardiff Valleys at the moment for passenger capacity purposes to try and avoid people being unable to board trains

anamyd · 25 Jan 2020

So, which ex-GA/EMR 153s are based at Canton and which are at Landore…? Also, is it still 8 of the 9, or has 153321 now been moved to / towards Wales...?

PHILIPE · 25 Jan 2020

anamyd said:
So, which ex-GA/EMR 153s are based at Canton and which are at Landore…? Also, is it still 8 of the 9, or has 153321 now been moved to / towards Wales...?

They are all based at Canton but I've lost track of what has gone to Landore apart from those mentioned in Post #458

anamyd · 25 Jan 2020

PHILIPE said:
They are all based at Canton but I've lost track of what has gone to Landore apart from those mentioned in Post #458

"All" meaning the 8 or the 9 - does anyone know what 153321 is doing...? I wonder when these are going to enter service...? :lol:

Anonymous10 · 25 Jan 2020

anamyd said:
"All" meaning the 8 or the 9 - does anyone know what 153321 is doing...? I wonder when these are going to enter service...?

I agreed as it would be nice for west Wales to have them instead of some Pacers

sd0733 · 27 Jan 2020

anamyd said:
"All" meaning the 8 or the 9 - does anyone know what 153321 is doing...? I wonder when these are going to enter service...?

There a path for this morning Crewe to Landore presume will be 321
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K00161/2020-01-27/detailed

anamyd · 27 Jan 2020

sd0733 said:
There a path for this morning Crewe to Landore presume will be 321
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K00161/2020-01-27/detailed

thanks for that

will be nice to see all these enter service (when they do!)

PHILIPE · 27 Jan 2020

153314 out in traffic on rear 1622 Cardiff to Chester today behind not one but 2 x 158s. Perhaps Blaenau ffestiniog tomorrow ??

anamyd · 27 Jan 2020

There's a video now anyway... Not mine, but rather that of YouTube user Diesel Terminal.

PHILIPE · 27 Jan 2020

anamyd said:
Thanks, that sounds like something that could've been in post 478 Glad we got there in the end What Facebook page was the photo on...?

According to another Forum 153322 went to Ebbw Vale with a 150 on 2N23

Sion John · 27 Jan 2020

anamyd said:
I'll take that as a "no" then - did you actually see it in person...? Do you know if there were any passengers in the 153 or was it "locked out of use"...?

Well most stat

PHILIPE said:
According to another Forum 153322 went to Ebbw Vale with a 150 on 2N23

Yes. 150285

matt · 27 Jan 2020

Just a gentle reminder that this stock is to discuss PRM modified stock for Transport for Wales. Can we try and make sure posts are on topic and also contribute to the thread.

Sion John · 28 Jan 2020

PHILIPE said:
153314 out in traffic on rear 1622 Cardiff to Chester today behind not one but 2 x 158s. Perhaps Blaenau ffestiniog tomorrow ??

153314 is on driver training in north wales today

sd0733 · 28 Jan 2020

153306 has become the 3rd ex Anglia 153 in service, should be working 1609 Bridgend to Ebbw with a 150.
322 was also out again on the Fishguard this morning.

Caaardiff · 28 Jan 2020

Pretty sure recently the peak time Ebbw Vale services have been 170s lately. Does that mean another 170 issue resulting in 15X's covering?

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