Great Western Railway Heathrow Express Class 387 Refittment and Service Updates

JN114 · 7 Dec 2019

That’s no different to a GWR 387 now

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absolutelymilk · 19 Dec 2019

Gagravarr said:
Via the blog Head For Points, Heathrow Express management are now saying that the 387s won't be in service until March 2020.

Do you have a link to the article itself? I can't find anything about the new date on there

Gagravarr · 19 Dec 2019

Looks like the Head For Points article has been subsequently edited to remove the bit on the HEX change. Possibly they hadn't meant that bit of the discussion to be published...

sgraIRL · 31 Dec 2019

Gagravarr said:
Looks like the Head For Points article has been subsequently edited to remove the bit on the HEX change. Possibly they hadn't meant that bit of the discussion to be published...

I'm happy with the delay anyway, gives me a chance to catch the 3 HEx Class 332s that I am missing.

fgwrich · 31 Dec 2019

57305 + 387133 On the move today with the 5Q58 from Bombardier Ilford to Old Dalby.

3973EXL · 7 Jan 2020

5Q50 1052 Reading Depot - Ilford
57306 387136

T-Karmel · 11 Jan 2020

sgraIRL said:
I'm happy with the delay anyway, gives me a chance to catch the 3 HEx Class 332s that I am missing.

Hope you're not missing on 332014? This one's dead and used for parts.

317 forever · 11 Jan 2020

I can't tell whether these will be refurbished and given a new moquette, or just keep current GWR seating.

T-Karmel · 11 Jan 2020

317 forever said:
I can't tell whether these will be refurbished and given a new moquette, or just keep current GWR seating.

They already have removed the moquette from all the seats, I don't see the reason to put the same one back on them. Especially because HEX sees itself as a premium brand and wants to deliver a high quality product to a passenger. Which means a matching interior to its purple grey colours rather then mixing it up with some green.

317 forever · 11 Jan 2020

T-Karmel said:
They already have removed the moquette from all the seats, I don't see the reason to put the same one back on them. Especially because HEX sees itself as a premium brand and wants to deliver a high quality product to a passenger. Which means a matching interior to its purple grey colours rather then mixing it up with some green.

OK thanks, and yes it does mean people get something extra for paying Heathrow Express fares. I do now plan to ride one after all.

MatthewRead · 12 Jan 2020

How long will it be before the first 387's are in service on Heathrow Express?

JN114 · 13 Jan 2020

MatthewRead said:
How long will it be before the first 387's are in service on Heathrow Express?

Spring at the earliest

3973EXL · 15 Jan 2020

5D74 Philips Marsh - Reading off Didcot 1413
57305 387131/132

UnlimitedMagic · 25 Jan 2020

They were due to come at the start of GWR’s December timetable change but I’m not seeing some
Maybe the date was postponed or something?

Clarence Yard · 25 Jan 2020

The ETCS position on the Heathrow branch has delayed driver training and service introduction. Looking like September now and that is if the ETCS testing and sign off goes well.

Chris125 · 26 Jan 2020

Clarence Yard said:
The ETCS position on the Heathrow branch has delayed driver training and service introduction. Looking like September now and that is if the ETCS testing and sign off goes well.

Have any 387s had ETCS fitted yet?

Nicholas Lewis · 26 Jan 2020

So with 345's now running the reading stoppers are there must be a fair few of these now sitting idle or at least released for there full conversion

swt_passenger · 26 Jan 2020

Chris125 said:
Have any 387s had ETCS fitted yet?

Please see this post (from October):
https://www.railforums.co.uk/thread...nd-service-updates.179590/page-4#post-4260205

edited following thread merge...

the-man · 26 Jan 2020

T-Karmel said:
Hope you're not missing on 332014? This one's dead and used for parts.

Where is it ?...old oak ? Thanks

cactustwirly · 26 Jan 2020

Nicholas Lewis said:
So with 345's now running the reading stoppers are there must be a fair few of these now sitting idle or at least released for there full conversion

Not really, plenty of 387s are still needed for the residual stopping services, especially during the weekday peaks.

Nicholas Lewis · 26 Jan 2020

cactustwirly said:
Not really, plenty of 387s are still needed for the residual stopping services, especially during the weekday peaks.

How they are going to free up the units then? More intensive diagraming?

Energy · 26 Jan 2020

Nicholas Lewis said:
How they are going to free up the units then? More intensive diagraming?

Purple Train services have taken over some 387 services, the ones which are now no longer needed are being used for HeX.

Nicholas Lewis · 26 Jan 2020

Energy said:
Purple Train services have taken over some 387 services, the ones which are now no longer needed are being used for HeX.

As i thought hence my observation in #167 that there must be a few sitting around now

cactustwirly · 26 Jan 2020

Nicholas Lewis said:
As i thought hence my observation in #167 that there must be a few sitting around now

The 345s only released like 10 of the 45 units

Chris125 · 26 Jan 2020

swt_passenger said:
Please see this post (from October):
https://www.railforums.co.uk/thread...nd-service-updates.179590/page-4#post-4260205

edited following thread merge...

Thanks for that, any idea if it's been tested anywhere yet?

swt_passenger · 26 Jan 2020

Chris125 said:
Thanks for that, any idea if it's been tested anywhere yet?

Haven’t been keeping up, sorry.

Siemens Staines · 26 Jan 2020

cactustwirly said:
The 345s only released like 10 of the 45 units

I thought that it was 12 units that were being moved over to HEX duties (387130-141)? Only 387141 of this group still seems to be in active use with GWR. 387137 & 387138 are (or at least were a week or so ago) still in West Ealing sidings where they have been since the timetable change. I assumed that all were just awaiting their turn to be called to Ilford but perhaps I am wrong (again!)

JN114 · 26 Jan 2020

387137 and 138 are “spare” sets at West Ealing until they need to go to Ilford - they can be used for traffic but thus far have not been called upon.

T-Karmel · 26 Jan 2020

the-man said:
Where is it ?...old oak ? Thanks

Yes, it stays in the depot for last who knows how many years. Usually by the fence next to relief line, but recently they moved it closer to the depot building. You can see it from any train passing by there and it's easy to realise which one it is - lights cover at the front, some panel next to the lights at the front, A/C above the cab and pantograph are removed. It's quite spooky train

the-man · 29 Jan 2020

T-Karmel said:
Yes, it stays in the depot for last who knows how many years. Usually by the fence next to relief line, but recently they moved it closer to the depot building. You can see it from any train passing by there and it's easy to realise which one it is - lights cover at the front, some panel next to the lights at the front, A/C above the cab and pantograph are removed. It's quite spooky train

Thank you..

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