hexagon789
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EMR could even name a Class 153 "City of Matlock" as commemoration.
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EMR could even name a Class 153 "City of Matlock" as commemoration.
Cheers for your replyI don't believe it is, I think it put in a bid in 2012 (?), but failed to obtain city status.
... so size alone clearly isn't an indicator or it's a good indicator that once a city, always a city.
What was the reason it lost it?Rochester had city status for about 800 years until it lost it in 1998.
What was the reason it lost it?
And don't get me started on places like Milton Keynes and Reading that think referring to 'city centre' on road sign self-grants them city status....
Kingston-upon-Thames was the county town of Surrey until the 1965 Local Government Act brought into Greater London and the town changed its name to Kingston upon Thames.Regarding Guildford, if it ever becomes a city, I feel the same should happen for Kingston upon Thames being as the functions of Surrey County Council are shared between the two.
Wow. I didn't know city stays couldn't reconfered on a place. There again I didn't know it could be taken away.An administrative stuff-up which was not actually noticed for some time after it happened. It became a unitary authority and some error of paperwork meant that the city status was not carried over. Once lost, it could not be reinstated.
As the district, which had been granted borough status, wasn't abolished, it's still a borough.[1] It's not a borough any more either, it's a unitary.
It wasn't removed - the entity with city status ceased to exist. There was nothing pre-existing to transfer the status to, nor was there nothing created (such as charter trustees, like Bath and Hereford did). It took 4 years for the new Medway Council to find out what had happened when they saw a list of cities without Rochester on it.Wow. I didn't know city stays couldn't reconfered on a place. There again I didn't know it could be taken away.
Not a law, but sure, they could do what they for St Davids, which regained its lost city status in 1994.Could they have not just introduced a law cover Rochester to correct the error. A one off law.
Not a law, but sure, they could do what they for St Davids, which regained its lost city status in 1994.
I have no idea about Reading, but nobody in MK (unless they're thick) thinks it's got city status, nor does anyone other than the local gutter rag really care about it that much.
The signs said (they don't even mention "city" any more I think) "Welcome to the Borough[1] and New City of Milton Keynes".
A "New City" is a term used by the Commission for the New Towns to describe a large new town, of which MK was the only one though I think there may have been odd schemes for more that never happened.
A "New City" does not have to be a "city".
[1] It's not a borough any more either, it's a unitary.
I have no idea about Reading, but nobody in MK (unless they're thick) thinks it's got city status, nor does anyone other than the local gutter rag really care about it that much.
The signs said (they don't even mention "city" any more I think) "Welcome to the Borough[1] and New City of Milton Keynes".
A "New City" is a term used by the Commission for the New Towns to describe a large new town, of which MK was the only one though I think there may have been odd schemes for more that never happened.
A "New City" does not have to be a "city".
[1] It's not a borough any more either, it's a unitary.
Ben Chorley says he has ‘so much admiration’ for MK Dons chairman Pete Winkelman, for what he’s brought to the city of Milton Keynes and how he’s developed the Football Club.
“We were in each other’s pockets 24/7 up here – we only went home on a Sunday! We lived together, we ate Nando’s together. The way this City has come on is incredible – there were about five shops here when I first moved up here!”
I have no idea about Reading, but nobody in MK (unless they're thick) thinks it's got city status, nor does anyone other than the local gutter rag really care about it that much.
The signs said (they don't even mention "city" any more I think) "Welcome to the Borough[1] and New City of Milton Keynes".
A "New City" is a term used by the Commission for the New Towns to describe a large new town, of which MK was the only one though I think there may have been odd schemes for more that never happened.
A "New City" does not have to be a "city".
[1] It's not a borough any more either, it's a unitary.
MK Dons seem to reckon it's a city: https://www.mkdons.com/news/2019/february/chorley-full-of-admiration-for-chairman/
Rochester has technically reapplied as the new unitary authority it's part of (Medway, which includes Chatham and Gillingham) in 2000, 2002 and 2012 but for some reason, it hasn't won it yet!There was nothing pre-existing to transfer the status to, nor was there nothing created (such as charter trustees, like Bath and Hereford did). It took 4 years for the new Medway Council to find out what had happened when they saw a list of cities without Rochester on it.
Thinking about a "New City" not having to be a "city", the ones I can think of are Welwyn Garden City and Letchworth Garden City. Very strangely (and possibly unique), both of the Garden Cities have the New Town of Stevenage sandwiched between them.
Having worked for the Probation Service in the Medway Towns, but involving liaison with council officials, etc, I could cast aspersions on the notion that nobody noticed that Rochester had lost its city status. There was SO much rivalry, even hatred, between Strood, Rochester, Chatham and Gillingham. Got to say, one of those places was one of my favourites of all places in Kent, and one the absolute pits, but discretion prevents me identifying which ones.As the district, which had been granted borough status, wasn't abolished, it's still a borough.
It wasn't removed - the entity with city status ceased to exist. There was nothing pre-existing to transfer the status to, nor was there nothing created (such as charter trustees, like Bath and Hereford did). It took 4 years for the new Medway Council to find out what had happened when they saw a list of cities without Rochester on it.Not a law, but sure, they could do what they for St Davids, which regained its lost city status in 1994.
Nope, having city in its name doesn't have anything to do with city status. The much larger Letchworth Garden City and Welwyn Garden City, both in Hertfordshire, don't have city status despite having 'city' in their names. The latter is next to an actual city (St Albans) though.What about Garden City in Flintshire? - it's so small it makes St David's seem massive.
Nope, having city in its name doesn't have anything to do with city status. The much larger Letchworth Garden City and Welwyn Garden City, both in Hertfordshire, don't have city status despite having 'city' in their names. The latter is next to an actual city (St Albans) though.
I once went to Sofa City, but can't say I noticed a cathedral nearby.
Only Saga CityI hope you're not guilty of Menda City.
Only Saga City
Aberdeen to Penzance which stops at 15 cities. Aberdeen, Dundee, Edinburgh, Newcastle upon Tyne, Durham, York, Leeds, Wakefield, Sheffield, Derby, Birmingham. Bristol, Exeter, Plymouth and Truro.Which train service stops at the most cities?
Norwich to Liverpool is six I think.