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alangla

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Cheers. We are still stationary and no sign of a loco. Train is in darkness and pretty tomb-like.

Wonder how long it will block the main line for. Any other time of the day and it would be carnage.
Looks like the Avanti has gone wrong line from Symington to Beattock. Rescue loco currently showing south of Carstairs
 

alangla

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Trans Pennine seems to have gone wrong line to Beattock Summit as well. 1Z99 is now sitting at Symington. Whether that means it’s going to go wrong line to get to the front of the sleeper or not is anyone’s guess. Northbound lowlander & first northbound Trans Pennine both now waiting at Beattock summit
 

tricky18jan

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I’m on 1M06 glc to Euston, been in Carstairs UPL since 0615.

1M21 got to Carlisle and was cancelled and started as 1T06 instead

just been told rescue loco now attached to sleeper and we should be moving within the hour


Allegedly
 

elgin eagle

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Trans Pennine seems to have gone wrong line to Beattock Summit as well. 1Z99 is now sitting at Symington. Whether that means it’s going to go wrong line to get to the front of the sleeper or not is anyone’s guess. Northbound lowlander & first northbound Trans Pennine both now waiting at Beattock summit

I've heard that we are going back to Edinburgh now. Probably makes sense given the length of delay, crews hours etc.
 

MadCommuter

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So 1M16 didnt get to the border, its took all night to get a rescue loco to the train and now everyone goes back to where they started?
 

voyagerdude220

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Quote from Avanti:

1M21 will not attempt Train to Train rescue as GBRF do not want to wake the customers.
1M21 is now proceeding through the single line working and will terminate at Carlisle.

So it appears as if Avanti appeared to offer GBRF/CS a hand, but they politely declined the offer.
 

elgin eagle

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Yeah moving again, but southward. Bailing at Carlisle as plans ruined. They did offer to book us alternative flights to be fair to them.
 

Kendalian

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Yes, it's a lot more settled now, both in terms of timekeeping and reliability of onboard equipment such as plumbing.

That's not to say that you might not find yourself in the middle of a spectacular delay, but those happened often enough with the old stock as well.

One less good piece of feedback I've had in the past week or so is that bits are starting to fall off in cabins already. Heating and lighting control knobs are starting to break, that sort of thing. Of course we all know what CAF stands for...

I think we should nominate 47 for an award for tempting fate :E

Sounds like a meltdown last night not seen for a while.

To clarify, the southbound lowlander Edinburgh portion was cancelled and guests had to wait for the southbound highlander.
Southbound highlander then had loco fault south of Carstairs and stuck for 6 (six) hours and only just on the move now.

Is that the gist of it?
 

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Does anyone know if the southbound highlander is going to London? I might go and see it at Crewe if it is.
 

elgin eagle

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I think we should nominate 47 for an award for tempting fate :E

Sounds like a meltdown last night not seen for a while.

To clarify, the southbound lowlander Edinburgh portion was cancelled and guests had to wait for the southbound highlander.
Southbound highlander then had loco fault south of Carstairs and stuck for 6 (six) hours and only just on the move now.

Is that the gist of it?
Yeah, pretty much. Getting off at Carlisle and heading back to Perth. The train is continuing South though.
 

Far north 37

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I think we should nominate 47 for an award for tempting fate :E

Sounds like a meltdown last night not seen for a while.

To clarify, the southbound lowlander Edinburgh portion was cancelled and guests had to wait for the southbound highlander.
Southbound highlander then had loco fault south of Carstairs and stuck for 6 (six) hours and only just on the move now.

Is that the gist of it?
I bet the ones that went on the highlander portion insteadv of the edinburgh are glad they did now.
 

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Does anyone know if the southbound highlander is going to London? I might go and see it at Crewe if it is.

It's just left Carlisle. The only problem is the driver swap at Preston as the driver at Preston might now be out of time, or there might not be another driver to take over.
 

jagardner1984

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Don’t forget the northbound lowlander, 70 late into Glasgow and didn’t serve Edinburgh.

(As a side note, which platforms at Central can take a full 16 cars ?)

All in all a busy night for Serco’s delay repay people.
 

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It's just left Carlisle. The only problem is the driver swap at Preston as the driver at Preston might now be out of time, or there might not be another driver to take over.

It's being followed by two Avanti services, one direct to London and one via Birmingham, so if the Sleeper gets to Preston without being looped the passengers may as well change there.
 

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It's being followed by two Avanti services, one direct to London and one via Birmingham, so if the Sleeper gets to Preston without being looped the passengers may as well change there.
Assuming Avanti are willing to accept tickets...
 

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I think we should nominate 47 for an award for tempting fate :E
Point taken, and I have to admit that I wouldn't have answered the question as I did 24 hours later. My sympathies to everyone caught up last night.

The risk of tempting fate did occur to me as I typed, which is why I said:
That's not to say that you might not find yourself in the middle of a spectacular delay, but those happened often enough with the old stock as well.
 

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Deary me, what a shambles!
Is that lack of spare locos coming back to bite them on the rear?

That’s a pretty hefty delay by any count. Looking like a midday arrival?
 

jagardner1984

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I suppose, reputation aside (which is a big factor), that once you get past 1 hour, and its someone else's fault (GBRF), then its sort of irrelevant to Caledonian Sleeper.
 

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Deary me, what a shambles!
Is that lack of spare locos coming back to bite them on the rear?

That’s a pretty hefty delay by any count. Looking like a midday arrival?
Due in at 1339 according to RTT, so that's the sleeper + all the other trains delayed and cancelled around it.
 

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