Based on tracing in RTT the same unit that worked 1M67 2212 Edinburgh to Manchester Airport last night and that appears from an entry in Railcam data to be 350402.
Glad i didnt get up early to get the 907 ha .
Based on tracing in RTT the same unit that worked 1M67 2212 Edinburgh to Manchester Airport last night and that appears from an entry in Railcam data to be 350402.
Suprised there using the reservations , thought they had been suspended.
Hi,
Are the 397s in use on the Liverpool-Glasgow service yet I thought this was supposed to be 397s but I have seen 185s on this service when is this services going to be all 397 operated?
Luke
It will be 397's for the foreseeable future.
You mean 185s for the foreseeable future on this route is that because TPE are still awaiting the delivery of more 397s when are they expected to be all in service?
Luke
most have been accepted by the company.
*185s.
Not sure what was up with the Seat Reservation system on 007, has been fine but wasn't on it last week.
011 had a wobble first day in service but generally been working ok on all.
All reservations are still being placed on Nova 2 by hand at Airport/Glasgow/Edinburgh in case the system fails short term so reservations should be on in duplicate for now.
Don't think last minute reservations allowed as yet until diagrams confirmed as a certainty.
Re: boarding, no noticeable difference at WCML stations if unit the correct way round (Coach A leading Northbound)as platform staff get more familiar where unit stops/coaches are so helping customers pre arrival.
PICC is PICC, no amount of persuasion will get people to move to use all the doors. Once commuters for preston get used to the trains running in service/formation that will help at Picc for boarding on the 16:26/17:26 & 18:26 as they'll be stood near where the doors are/unreserved and quieter reserved coaches.
Once boarded if crammed the guard should use the cameras/PA to manage the train(especially as you can announce to individual coaches so can manage the passenger seating arrangements without causing an on board scrum).
Only area that I feel will need watching /better signage is in Coach A around the flip down seats, it's for Bikes and they take priority, lots of commuters will aim for that area(needs a bike sign on the window like you see in Germany as in fairness the signage is low key).
Which ones have been accepted? Only 003/5/6/7/11 have operated in service as far as I can tell and the others aren't doing much.
Pieceing information together from various places - ie here, wnxx, scot-rail and Railcam data
397001 - not in service, last reported at Crewe, training runs in November / December
397002 - not in service, stored / static training at Polmadie
397003 - in service, worked 0905 MIA-GLC this morning
397004 - not in service, stored at Longsight
397005 - in service, worked 1105 GLC-MIA this morning
397006 - in service, worked from Preston to Crewe on Thursday
397007 - in service, worked on Friday
397008 - not in service - stored / static training at Polmadie since September
397009 - not in service - stored at Longtown - appeared to be testing in December
397010 - not in service - at Crewe?
397011 - in service - worked on Friday
397012 - not in service - currently testing on the WCML
Can someone confirm? Does that mean that all except 009/010/012 are accepted?
TPE usually in my experience is the train can be either way around. Not good at P14 heading north.
On Nova 2 Coach E will be at the South end at all times where possible (they always face one direction at the moment so that should be easy to maintain once the set is turned for the first time).
On Nova 2 Coach E will be at the South end at all times where possible (they always face one direction at the moment so that should be easy to maintain once the set is turned for the first time).
With many TPE services been reinstated tomorrow (rest 17th on Feb) I'd assume we'll see more use now for these trains?397001 - Preston Croft Street for training.
397002 - Longsight.
397003 - In service.
397004 - Longsight.
397005 - In service/Polmadie training.
397006 - Available for service.
397007 - Available for service.
397008 - Polmadie for training.
397009 - Kingmoor.
397010 - Not been seen for a while.
397011 - Available for service.
397012 - Fault free running.
As far as I know 009, 010 and 012 are still to be accepted. The 9 accepted sets have all seen use by TPE in some capacity either in passenger service or crew training.
With many TPE services been reinstated tomorrow (rest 17th on Feb) I'd assume we'll see more use now for these trains?
Well it's been 15 months since the first Class 397 delivery and at least two since the last was delivered and a pathetic one or two in daily service so this is for sure the slowest introduction of any brand new train sadly.It is only Liverpool to Newcastle / Edinburgh where services have been cancelled and are being reinstated. The Manchester Airport to Scotland trains have continued to run so not quite sure why a link is supposed.
That is just a case of more 802s being used in service.
Well it's been 15 months since the first Class 397 delivery and at least two since the last was delivered and a pathetic one or two in daily service so this is for sure the slowest introduction of any brand new train sadly.
*should
The end goal is to have a repeatable formation across all Nova units. Until a greater number of sets are in regular service, the primary focus is on getting the units out and in customer traffic, irrespective of formation. I'd expect this to be sporadic at least for the next two months.
Or 'where possible'
Pretty sure of the ones in passenger use 003, 005, 006 & 011 all in formation so helping with boarding speeds already(007 was but not been on it for ages).
So what works Edinburgh services , I know there is one booked 397 turn , are the rest 350s or 185s
397s prob not the slowest intro of new trains as they seem to like to play with new trains for a while before training crews or letting the public loose on them.Well it's been 15 months since the first Class 397 delivery and at least two since the last was delivered and a pathetic one or two in daily service so this is for sure the slowest introduction of any brand new train sadly.
So what works Edinburgh services , I know there is one booked 397 turn , are the rest 350s or 185s
Unless the plan changes before the 30th March, the two diagrams per day will remain until then, when it will increase to 8 per day.
I may be wrong, but I think it's 11 including the Liverpool to Glasgow services and 9 without.How many diagrams are there in total for the Anglo-Scot route?
I may be wrong, but I think it's 11 including the Liverpool to Glasgow services and 9 without.