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Tracks near Bootle Oriel Road.

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Saperstein

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Travelling towards Liverpool today on the Merseyrail Northern Line I noticed a second pair of tracks on the left hand side in the direction of travel just after Bootle Oriel Road.

They were not electrified and I wondered if any one knew what they were?

They disappeared into a tunnel just before Bank Hall.

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It is the Bootle Branch (extension line) from Liverpool Docks under your line and under Kirkdale to Edge Hill or the Olive Mount Chord - non-electrified (freight?).
 

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I think that will be the route to Wavertree, freight line only long proposed for reopening as part of a Liverpool circle. Continues down to the docks
 

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This line was sadly the scene of the tragic murder of toddler James Bulger in 1993. It has been traversed by a number of enthusiasts' specials in recent years, particularly those wishing to grice the new Olive Mount chord. This was opened in 2009 and meant trains could reach the docks without reversal.
 

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Yes. And there were also once passenger services from Lime St. to Alexandra Dock, and to Canada Dock.

And using part of the route, passenger specials to Aintree via the North Mersey Branch (the track which is behind the platforms at Bootle Oriel Road, although heavily overgrown)
 

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Travelling towards Liverpool today on the Merseyrail Northern Line I noticed a second pair of tracks on the left hand side in the direction of travel just after Bootle Oriel Road.

They were not electrified and I wondered if any one knew what they were?

They disappeared into a tunnel just before Bank Hall.

Thanks

Saperstein.
Ive been on the line several times. Runs from Olive mount towards the docks (I think). Its got a perment 20 mph speed limit on it. I don't know how many trains run on it.
 

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Was I right in my earlier posting that the closed station of Spellow could be accessed on this line?
The following page on the Disused Stations website confirms that Spellow station was located on the Bootle Branch as described by the OP:

http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/s/spellow/

That web page also has this useful map showing relationships between historic lines in the area

bootle_branch_map_aey.gif

(map credited to Alan Young)
 

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Was this the route that the Lime St - Southport service took?

Before the Link/Loop opened a diesel service operated into Lime Street from Southport to provide connections to/from the London Euston service. It was not unusual for this to be cancelled and replaced with a taxi across to Liverpool Exchange!
 

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The following page on the Disused Stations website confirms that Spellow station was located on the Bootle Branch as described by the OP:

http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/s/spellow/

That web page also has this useful map showing relationships between historic lines in the area

bootle_branch_map_aey.gif

(map credited to Alan Young)

Tunnel-lovers should take a look at Kirkdale station, where the former 4-track L&Y line, emerging from its own tunnels, passes over the old L&NWR tunnel, while the old CLC line, partly in tunnel from Walton on the Hill, runs alongside the L&Y but at a lower level. The CLC went under the Leeds and Liverpool Canal to reach Huskisson goods station, while the L&Y crossed over it at Sandhills. There was a signal box called Atlantic Dock junction where the 2 branches of the LNWR line diverged. It was overlooked by the back wall of Bank Hall depot. In the 1880s one of Sir Edward Watkin's brainwaves was for a tunnel from the CLC through a station at Central Low Level, alongside the Mersey Railway, to Huskisson, where there was a very short-lived passenger station. This would have given Liverpool a Link 90 years before it finally got it. The route from Central Low Level to Southport Lord Street via Walton on the Hill, Aintree Central and the Southport Extension, believe it or not, would have been very marginally shorter than the L&Y route, but with very inferior traffic potential beyond Aintree.
 

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....... There was a signal box called Atlantic Dock junction where the 2 branches of the LNWR line diverged. It was overlooked by the back wall of Bank Hall depot.....
Atlantic Dock Junction has its own detailed page on the Disused Stations website.

Since we're talking about tunnels, Atlantic Dock Junction 'box must have been a gloomy place to work, situated in a deep brick-walled cutting between three tunnels.

As well as gloomy, unlucky too. Apparently this 'box was badly damaged by a runaway goods train in 1950 (catch points diverting the wagons directly into the signalbox), burnt down by arsonists in 1976 and the replacement box was also attacked by arsonists in 1980, after which the signalbox was replaced by a ground frame.
 
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