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Northern Pacer Withdrawals - Info?

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NorthernSpirit

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I've added some additional info to the list to try and avoid any confusion. I expecting things to change what with Operator of Last Resort taking over Northern from the 1st March, what's the chance that some of the stored units may have to be pressed back into service in the short term?

Red - withdrawn.
Orange - scrapped / sent to be scrapped
Yellow - converted to other use (does not include food tins or razor blades).
Green - modified for Passengers of Reduced Mobility.
Blue - in storage.
Purple - preserved.
Pink - can operate provided that they are coupled to a PRM compliant unit.
Black - class 142 units that are still in service, subject to change in the coming months.


Class 142
001 - Unit preserved. Due to move to the National Railway Museum in York.
002 -
003 - in storage at Gascoigne Wood. Unit set to be preserved by a private owner?
004 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
005 - First to be withdrawn, now scrapped (updated as of 7th December 2019)
006 -
007 - was in storage at Barrow, moved to Heaton TMD and now at Gascoigne Wood.
008 - Scrapped (Collided with a class 87 at Winsford in 1999).
009 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury.
010 -
011 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
012 - at Landore TMD? being stripped of spare parts.
013 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
014 - was in warm storage at Heaton TMD, now at Gascoigne Wood.
015 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
016 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
017 - in storage at Worksop, Unit to be preserved at East Kent Railway?
018 - in warm store at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
019 - in storage at Worksop, unit to be preserved by the Waverley Route Heritage Association
020 - in storage at Worksop, unit to be preserved by the Waverley Route Heritage Association
021 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
022 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
023 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit, unit currently at Neville Hill TMD. (Unit to be preserved at Plym Valley Railway?)
024 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
025 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
026 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
027 - Unit preserved by Chasewater Railway as a spare parts donor for 029 and 039 + any other Pacer they aquire.
028 - in storage at Gascoigne Wood
029 - Unit preserved at Chasewater Railway
030 - Unit preserved at Chasewater Railway
031 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
032 - in storage at Gascoigne Wood.
033 - Converted to a Police Training Unit by South Wales Police at Bridgend rugby pitch.
034 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
035 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
036 - Unit to be preserved at East Kent Railway (is this still going ahead?) - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
037 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
038 - in storage at Gascoigne Wood
039 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
040 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
041 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit. Currently at Allerton.
042 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
043 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
044 - Scrapped, second class 142 unit to be dismantled at CF Booths (the first being 005).
045 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
046 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
047 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
048 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
049 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury.
050 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
051 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
052 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
053 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
054 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
055 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
056 - in storage at Gascoigne Wood.
057 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
058 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
059 - Scrapped (Collided with buffer stops at Liverpool Lime Street in 1991.)
060 - in storage at Gascoigne Wood.
061 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
062 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
063 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
064 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
065 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
066 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
067 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
068 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
069 -
070 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
071 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
072 -
073 -
074 -
075 -
076 -
077 -
078 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
079 - at Landore TMD? being stripped of spare parts.
080 -
081 -
082 -
083 -
084 - Unit preserved by Rushden Historical Transport Society.
085 -
086 - at Canton, spare parts unit.
087 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
088 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury.
089 - was in warm storage at Newton Heath TMD, moved to Heaton TMD and now at Gascoigne Wood.
090 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
091 - Unit preserved by Rushden Historical Transport Society.
092 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
093 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury.
094 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
095 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
096 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury. The last of the class lost for good.

Class 143
601
602
603 - set to be preserved at the Swindon and Cricklade Railway
604
605
606
607
608
609
610
611
612
613 - Scrapped (Unit caught fire near Nailsea & Backwell in 2004).
614
615 - Scrapped (Unit caught fire in 2005).
616
617
618
619
620
621
622
623
624
625

Class 144 - All units stabled at Neville Hill TMD, can run on specified routes and can run solo.
001 - "Penistone Line Partnership"
002
003 - set to be preserved at the Great Central Railway at Ruddington.
004 - set to be preserved at Aln Valley railway, Alnmouth.
005
006
007
008
009
010
011
012 - 144 Evolution has full PRM modifications. (Possibly the last ever Pacer in service?)
013
014
015
016
017 - unit set to be preserved. First three car Pacer to be preserved.
018
019
020
021
022
023

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Ianno87

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Is there a chance that Class 142s might, quite bizarrely, become the most-preserved class in history at this rate?
 

DGH 1

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Ones at Heaton are going to be used for driver training around hull
Pardon my ignorance, but are things that bad around Hull that they are going to transfer pacers in and train drivers and presumably guards on them, given that they don't have much longer to go anyway?.
 

woodhouse122

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Pardon my ignorance, but are things that bad around Hull that they are going to transfer pacers in and train drivers and presumably guards on them, given that they don't have much longer to go anyway?.
think they are for route learning ,not for return to passenger duties
 

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Is there a chance that Class 142s might, quite bizarrely, become the most-preserved class in history at this rate?

For units I’d say thusfar class 205 would have been in with a shout, but it seems Pacers are going to beat them by some margin. Of course it remains to be seen how many remain operational with the test of time, the class 141s didn’t fare so well in that respect, and nor did the 205s come to that.

Of course history shows that with units anything above zero is something, especially electrics.
 

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Pardon my ignorance, but are things that bad around Hull that they are going to transfer pacers in and train drivers and presumably guards on them, given that they don't have much longer to go anyway?.

It seems to be about training new drivers-possibly for planned York to Scarboro services. We have been far better off round here ob Hull to Scarboro in recent times BUT lots of cancellations on Tues and Wed this week. My fear is that driver training might abstract current drivers to help and we cd be in for alot more disruption.
 

Jamesrob637

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There is a Pacer behind Stockport station. Is it out of use or just there for the weekend?
 

DGH 1

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It seems to be about training new drivers-possibly for planned York to Scarboro services. We have been far better off round here ob Hull to Scarboro in recent times BUT lots of cancellations on Tues and Wed this week. My fear is that driver training might abstract current drivers to help and we cd be in for alot more disruption.
Hi Peter, thanks for bringing me up to speed on this topic.I've been out of the loop as it were for a while and now playing catch up.also I can understand your concern as the last thing you need is more disruption on top of the Northern debacle so far.
 

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Thanks, must have been a large repair it needed if it was over there for so long
It seems strange to repair 142041 if the 142s are indeed only staying in service till mid February, especially as there are warm stored units at Heaton, that could be put back into service.
 

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142051 has apparently had an A exam on Newton Heath meaning it's likely to be one of the last in service.
 
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