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yorksrob

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Wellington street station was rebuilt in the 1930s hence the north concourse.

All the platform canopies were replaced at this time too so they are from the same period and the little remaining section is all that's left.

Ah, thanks for the confirmation. The canopy might have been built in a matching style to those towards Morecambe.

Alas its academic now as they're heading for the skip.
 
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Ah, thanks for the confirmation. The canopy might have been built in a matching style to those towards Morecambe.

Alas its academic now as they're heading for the skip.

You're welcome. It is such a shame they are going. It is the only aspect of the rail facing side of the station to have any character or history.

The god awful abomination in the 60s that replaced the original was disgusting too
 

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You're welcome. It is such a shame they are going. It is the only aspect of the rail facing side of the station to have any character or history.

The god awful abomination in the 60s that replaced the original was disgusting too

Yes, I was around to 'appreciate' the trainshed from that time.

I'd naively hoped that when platform zero came in it would follow the bed of the old platform on the other side of 1 (or W) as some of us remember it.

I guess that's the sadness of being a rail enthusiast. The fact that more people using it is lovely, but it brings such needless destruction.
 

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I agree, it would be even more better if they removed the boxing hiding the end above the ticket office and opened it up fully

They should do that and turn it into a mezzanine with tables so people can have their lunch.
 

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They should do that and turn it into a mezzanine with tables so people can have their lunch.

That would be wonderful, a couple of eateries on a mezzanine like kings cross would be a great addition and in impressive view down the concourse
 

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It was part of the Wellingto Street station (same vintage as the North concourse). It was a nice link to the steam age in an otherwise very modernistic looking station. Very solid looking too.

There's still some left if you want a look.

Ah, thanks for the confirmation. The canopy might have been built in a matching style to those towards Morecambe.

Alas its academic now as they're heading for the skip.

Have they actually started dismantling it thou and is it actually going in a skip ?
 

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Have they actually started dismantling it thou and is it actually going in a skip ?

When I looked on Saturday they'd removed the section furthest from the existing platform. It looks very much as though it won't be coming back.

Even if they have removed it for preservation (I haven't read about it going anywhere in the magazines) it was the fact that it was in situ in what's otherwise a very modern station that was good about it.
 

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When I looked on Saturday they'd removed the section furthest from the existing platform. It looks very much as though it won't be coming back.

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I know its certainly not coming back, just hoping its not getting scrapped!

Would be great if it could be used at Shipley!
 

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IIRC Shipley/Keighley canopy steelwork is all in store and can be reinstated. If it was to happen it would have by now.

However, with the number of plants growing on Shipley station roof , platform 5 side, and the general now very poor condition of the steps and steelwork on the still quite recent overbridges adding further maintenance liability won't be happening.
 

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I know its certainly not coming back, just hoping its not getting scrapped!

Would be great if it could be used at Shipley!

I'd rather they flattened that carbunkle of a car park than removed the canopy.

From the picture it looks very much like a carbon copy of the rest of the station (yawn).
 

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IIRC Shipley/Keighley canopy steelwork is all in store and can be reinstated. If it was to happen it would have by now.

However, with the number of plants growing on Shipley station roof , platform 5 side, and the general now very poor condition of the steps and steelwork on the still quite recent overbridges adding further maintenance liability won't be happening.

That's interesting to know. Currently the platform cover at Keighley is pretty woeful and could do with being increased.
 

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IIRC Shipley/Keighley canopy steelwork is all in store and can be reinstated. If it was to happen it would have by now.

However, with the number of plants growing on Shipley station roof , platform 5 side, and the general now very poor condition of the steps and steelwork on the still quite recent overbridges adding further maintenance liability won't be happening.

Well thats certainly interesting as I was of the opinion that it had as with Keighley's been scrapped except for some bits.
IIRC Shipley/Keighley canopy steelwork is all in store and can be reinstated. If it was to happen it would have by now.

However, with the number of plants growing on Shipley station roof , platform 5 side, and the general now very poor condition of the steps and steelwork on the still quite recent overbridges adding further maintenance liability won't be happening.

Surely if it was going to happen at Keighley, it would be planned for when the station is done up ? Like during this 4 million refurbishment.

Anyway is this actual Midland canopy as I was under the impression that it had all been scrapped ?
 

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How come the passage to the new gents toilets is single track? (The one next to the pub near the new entrance)

I’ve bumped in to so many people as it’s so narrow.

bad design or constraints?
 

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How come the passage to the new gents toilets is single track? (The one next to the pub near the new entrance)

I’ve bumped in to so many people as it’s so narrow.

bad design or constraints?

It's always been that way for as long as I can remember. They're the old toilets, just with a refurb.
 

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Well thats certainly interesting as I was of the opinion that it had as with Keighley's been scrapped except for some bits.


Surely if it was going to happen at Keighley, it would be planned for when the station is done up ? Like during this 4 million refurbishment.

Anyway is this actual Midland canopy as I was under the impression that it had all been scrapped ?

It would be nice if they could reinstate it. But you know how things work these days - you have a 4m refurb and probably end up with less platform cover than before !

This episide doesnt bode well should they decide to reinstate the bay platform at Middlesborough. An excuse for NR to demolish that platform canopy as well no doubt.
 

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It would be nice if they could reinstate it. But you know how things work these days - you have a 4m refurb and probably end up with less platform cover than before !

This episide doesnt bode well should they decide to reinstate the bay platform at Middlesborough. An excuse for NR to demolish that platform canopy as well no doubt.

Ain't it funny how any increase in the number of platforms at Leeds requires a waiting room to be demolished. Does Network Rail prefer people to get cold and wet?
 

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Ain't it funny how any increase in the number of platforms at Leeds requires a waiting room to be demolished. Does Network Rail prefer people to get cold and wet?

I must admit, from the pictures there doesn't look to be space for a waiting room between the new platforms.
 

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Ain't it funny how any increase in the number of platforms at Leeds requires a waiting room to be demolished. Does Network Rail prefer people to get cold and wet?

It was a waiting room that effectively served one platform, it won't be missed by many. The very lopsided nature of Leeds means that there are no viable waiting facilities for most of the bay platforms.
 

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Hello,

I live north of the station, with a good view of the work taking place. And the overnight noise... Took the attached photo on Sunday to share with friends (they resurfaced the car park but there was a car in the way the whole weekend). The roof is slowly being hacked away and deposited in an LSS skip further along the platform behind the hoarding, which is then collected and driven away.

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Can't do much about the canopy, but I sincerely hope that the columns find a good home.

Gary
 

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It makes me chuckle seeing that car fenced off into it's own naughty step :)
 

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It makes me chuckle seeing that car fenced off into it's own naughty step :)

It escaped at some point on Monday or Tuesday. Presumably someone will come in at the weekend, do the last bit of resurfacing and mark out the remaining spaces.

Should have earlier added that in a previous career I sat in on outline planning meetings for Platform 0, the new concourse works, New Station Street, merging of platforms 13 & 14 and the multi-storey car park extension. Some of which have not come to pass, some of which have taken five years - so far ;) I also worked on the delivery of the southern entrance. None of which are the reasons I moved to this flat...
 

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It escaped at some point on Monday or Tuesday. Presumably someone will come in at the weekend, do the last bit of resurfacing and mark out the remaining spaces.

Should have earlier added that in a previous career I sat in on outline planning meetings for Platform 0, the new concourse works, New Station Street, merging of platforms 13 & 14 and the multi-storey car park extension. Some of which have not come to pass, some of which have taken five years - so far ;) I also worked on the delivery of the southern entrance. None of which are the reasons I moved to this flat...

Thanks for the photo.

Was there no option of using the existing double sided canopy at the planning stage ?
 

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At the point I left I don't think platform 0 was going behind the multi-storey car park. There was an option to create an additional running line so that trains at 0C/0B could pull out and around anything at platform 0B/0A. That would have taken up more of the car park adjacent to the multi-storey.
 

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At the point I left I don't think platform 0 was going behind the multi-storey car park. There was an option to create an additional running line so that trains at 0C/0B could pull out and around anything at platform 0B/0A. That would have taken up more of the car park adjacent to the multi-storey.

Ah, that's interesting. I wasn't expecting it to come past the multi-storey either but the pictures on the hoarding suggest otherwise.
 

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I enquired about the status of the LMS canopy that is being removed with Network Rail, below is the response received:

Good Morning,

Thank you for taking the time to submit your service request.

We can confirm that the canopy will be removed as it's expiration date is upon us and we do need to replace in line with our safety requirements.

The canopy is not a listed feature and was known as a heritage roof due to the visual look only.

If you would like to keep up to date with the 'Platform 0' project please see:

https://www.networkrail.co.uk/runni...tes/north-and-east/leeds-station-improvements

Once again, thank you for taking the time to submit your service request and interest in our project.

Kind regards,

Catherine Herbert
 

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I enquired about the status of the LMS canopy that is being removed with Network Rail, below is the response received:

Good Morning,

Thank you for taking the time to submit your service request.

We can confirm that the canopy will be removed as it's expiration date is upon us and we do need to replace in line with our safety requirements.

The canopy is not a listed feature and was known as a heritage roof due to the visual look only.

If you would like to keep up to date with the 'Platform 0' project please see:

https://www.networkrail.co.uk/runni...tes/north-and-east/leeds-station-improvements

Once again, thank you for taking the time to submit your service request and interest in our project.

Kind regards,

Catherine Herbert

That's very interesting.

I wonder if the 'safety requirement' is anything to do with the reduced permittable OLE clearances.
 

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