Completely off topic but I didn’t want to start a new thread: Has Mr Souter changed his views concerning the LGBT community? I was talking to an old friend who refused to take Stagecoach buses in Manchester during the 90’s due to Brian Souter’s support of section 21...
-
Our booking engine at tickets.railforums.co.uk (powered by TrainSplit) helps support the running of the forum with every ticket purchase! Find out more and ask any questions/give us feedback in this thread!
Stagecoach Repaint Updates
- Thread starter overthewater
- Start date
- Status
Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; click here to register, or click here to log in
R
RailUK Forums
GaryMcEwan
Established Member
That was the only reason apparently as it went past his house on the Glasgow Road. Nothing narcissistic about that at all...
Will it though? While some people are easily confused, this sounds to me like finding another reason to criticise. Most folk are simply looking out for a bus with "33 Town Centre" on the front at the right stop and at roughly the right time.
Already, Stagecoach buses in many towns come in two different colours - most are white but some are in a fancy blue livery. If you live in West Sussex, you can find white buses in a subtle variation and branded Coastliner and yet more which are allover green - these may be intended for the 1 and the 60, but like those allocated to the 700, they are by no means route-bound. People aren't standing aside and letting the 17 go past just because the bus isn't the right colour today.
Stan Drews
Established Member
- Joined
- 5 Jun 2013
- Messages
- 1,576
Whilst it might seem like a nice conspiracy theory, it was actually chosen because the demographics of the 7 route fitted the original ‘Goldline’ model. Both ends of the route (Scone and Hillend) are relatively affluent parts of Perth, whilst the other frequent town services ran in more traditional ‘council housing’ bus territory.
Bletchleyite
Veteran Member
Well, can you blame him? If I owned a bus company I would!
Bletchleyite
Veteran Member
Having read the bit about "people are confused about which bus to catch" I can't help but think they have utterly missed the point, and that Trent Barton style route branding (but retaining numbers) would be a far better way of addressing the criticism, plus better maps and publicity including online?
In other words, the precise polar opposite of what they have done, namely making all local buses look identical?
In other words, the precise polar opposite of what they have done, namely making all local buses look identical?
Stagecoach 11501 / SN69 ZRG by kieron mathews, on FlickrHere is Stagecoach in Newcastle 11501 in a version of the new livery I took on Tuesday afternoon, this is a one off mosaic livery for this bus only.
Last edited:
RustySpoons
Member
- Joined
- 5 Apr 2019
- Messages
- 769
I know that's a one off adaption of the new livery, but I don't think it looks too bad at all. I've gone from thinking it's just ok to actually quite liking it the more I've seen it.
Jordan Adam
Established Member
Imo that one off version looks much better than the standard one.
tbtc
Veteran Member
To try to be positive about the new livery for a moment, at least the "Stagecoach" beneath the windscreen is nice and visible - so many buses are predominantly black when viewed from the front - a prospective passenger at a bus stop may have no idea which operator is turning up (remember, there are places where a route number is used by different companies, so seeing the destination screen from a distance may not be sufficient reassurance as to precisely which service is turning up).
Having all of this funky livery on the side of the vehicle is all well and good (although it will get partly covered by an advert in most cases, spoiling any attempt at the "curve"), but put yourself in the position of a passenger queuing at a busy stop, unsure whether to get their wallet/ purse/ phone out - bus travel can be quite an anxious experience for ordinary people - so having a nice clear "Stagecoach" underneath the windscreen is a good thing (and something that wasn't as obvious from the press release pictures, given the angle they were taken from)
Having all of this funky livery on the side of the vehicle is all well and good (although it will get partly covered by an advert in most cases, spoiling any attempt at the "curve"), but put yourself in the position of a passenger queuing at a busy stop, unsure whether to get their wallet/ purse/ phone out - bus travel can be quite an anxious experience for ordinary people - so having a nice clear "Stagecoach" underneath the windscreen is a good thing (and something that wasn't as obvious from the press release pictures, given the angle they were taken from)
Bletchleyite
Veteran Member
That version looks better, not as bland, though too much white still. I still think the logo font is wrong, though.
LOL The Irony
On Moderation
Probably because it's less pastely.
Bletchleyite
Veteran Member
I would agree - bold colours work much better.
Roger French has had his say and he's no more enthusiastic than most of you. He also questions the unexplained launch location and the uninspiring line-up.
https://busandtrainuser.com/2020/02/05/correction-and-a-stagecoach-rebrand/
https://busandtrainuser.com/2020/02/05/correction-and-a-stagecoach-rebrand/
Jordan Adam
Established Member
It's pretty clear the drab location was picked to make the liveries look more interesting...
AOR Minx
New Member
https://twitter.com/AorMinx/status/1225189461555916801
Yep. My fears have been realised.
Yep. My fears have been realised.
AOR Minx
New Member
That looks....ok.
Here is Stagecoach in Newcastle 11501 in a version of the new livery I took on Tuesday afternoon, this is a one off mosaic livery for this bus only.
My biggest nightmare is seeing it on the old X17s.
I've got even more of a reason to go to Northamptonshire to see those buses one final time now.
Attachments
RomeoCharlie71
Established Member
East Scotland repaints aren't starting until the Spring I'm told, so if you're missing Beachball...
Jordan Adam
Established Member
175mph
On Moderation
- Joined
- 25 Jan 2016
- Messages
- 661
I wonder when the East Midlands repaints will begin? Can't wait to see the new livery in Scunthorpe, Grimsby, Hull etc.
Already started, first decker going through Lincoln’s paint shop now.
175mph
On Moderation
- Joined
- 25 Jan 2016
- Messages
- 661
Do you know if any mention of Simplibus will be applied to the new livery?
I don’t, sorry - but if I were a betting man, I’d be putting my money on there being no Simplibus branding.
175mph
On Moderation
- Joined
- 25 Jan 2016
- Messages
- 661
Good. The Simplibus branding is really starting to get on my nerves, whilst I love the concept of shortening the route numbers as low as possible, the branding starts to get a bit jarring. I've noticed in Grimsby that with the fleet of new buses they ordered in 2014 and put into Simplibus branding, some have been put into generic beachball branding.
It'll look nice in Lincoln seeing the Enviro MMCs they ordered in 2018 to conincide with the new bus station in the new livery.
Plus as well, in Scunthorpe, seeing as they are still clinging onto Darts from 2004 and 2006, plus East Lancs Vyking double deckers, it'll be rather interesting to see them in the new livery, but don't know if they've already started repainting any of them or if they'll do it later this year or sometime next year.
Finally, if they discontinue the Simplibus branding, it'll be nice to see the veichles in Scunthorpe in the new livery, a new timetable leaflet issued without any mention of Simplibus, but still using the same short route numbers.
Goldfish62
Established Member
- Joined
- 14 Feb 2010
- Messages
- 10,029
As with First Barbie and then Olympia, the Beachball rebrand came with a new coordinated interior.
With the new livery nothing had been mentioned. Is the outdated and tacky looking orange and blue interior being continued, or is it being replaced by eg the blue and grey interior on recent deliveries to Manchester and Newcastle?
With the new livery nothing had been mentioned. Is the outdated and tacky looking orange and blue interior being continued, or is it being replaced by eg the blue and grey interior on recent deliveries to Manchester and Newcastle?
TheGrandWazoo
Veteran Member
I'd suggest that the Darts and Vykings are due for withdrawal sooner rather than later and are more likely to be culled rather than repainted.
Jordan Adam
Established Member
They're still working on the new interior design, the blue/grey is just a temporary thing.
175mph
On Moderation
- Joined
- 25 Jan 2016
- Messages
- 661
I was told by one of the drivers the Vykings are going to be kept hold of for a little while longer yet due to their ideal size for Scunthorpe's variable road widths on the various routes.
TheGrandWazoo
Veteran Member
Perhaps not in the next week but imagine they'll be heading off in due course. They are 15-16 years old so it's unlikely they'll be repainted.
- Status