Bletchleyite
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What is the relevance of Scotland yesterday to the M6 between Preston and Lancaster today?
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What is the relevance of Scotland yesterday to the M6 between Preston and Lancaster today?
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ChiefPlanner
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So we can expect a large repair bill for the Conway Valley line (yet) again ? - much discussed previously of course , to death.
Seems the plan was to attach another unit to the rear and evacuate passengers that way, but due to damage to the conductor rail it seems the section behind this train is dead - https://twitter.com/NetworkRailSE/status/1226558705157713921
Plan B seems to be to get another train alongside and do a side-to-side evacuation - https://twitter.com/NetworkRailSE/status/1226559395452129280 .
Southeastern have also now withdrawn replacement buses between Hastings and Robertsbridge, which were covering for engineering works, due to poor road conditions - https://twitter.com/Se_Railway/status/1226553210749452291 . (Edit: Now back with a 'limited service')
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175001
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As I posted elsewhere, local reports stating new culverts held up well. Hopefully just be a clean up job needed to remove debris off the line
Winthorpe
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The Manchester Piccadilly Twitter feed posted some photos inluding this one:
I assume this is some sort of evacuation? Looks like a class 221and class 390 side-by-side.
https://twitter.com/NetworkRailMAN/status/1226517137218572288
I assume this is some sort of evacuation? Looks like a class 221and class 390 side-by-side.
https://twitter.com/NetworkRailMAN/status/1226517137218572288
How many more trees on the line are needed to persuade Network Rail to clear lineside vegetation?
jamesst
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Which they do, then people start complaining about it!!
MadCommuter
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Those at the front line within Council roads departments do try their best, but the ever shrinking revenue budgets, its impossible to maintain roads to the standard they should be.
221129
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So have passengers.
dk1
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Couldn't believe it when I first heard this from the tree huggers a few years ago. I sympathise with nesting birds and it's good they wait but after that I have no idea why Network Rail pamper or even listen to these fools.
Sounds great until you work away from home. I visit my girlfriend on weekends in Newcastle and work in Birmingham during the week (thankfully not for much longer!)
About to start my weekly journey from Newcastle to Birmingham, wish me luck.
Plan so far is coach Newcastle to Leeds, then Leeds to Birmingham via XC. Line blocked south of Derby at present though.
I hope you have a safe journey. However, the advice from the Met Office, Network Rail and TOC's was not to travel. There were amber and risk to life warnings also released by the Met Office. So could you have travelled back last night? Could you have travelled back tomorrow morning. I appreciate you just want to get home and not making a fuss, but the people I'm referencing are those laying into TOC's for no reason on social media.
Sadly it seems people have decided that the do not travel warnings don't refer to them. And I bet that 80% of those who travelled didn't need to travel.
Avanti aren't allowing this. Not sure if other TOCS are
duffield
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If NR had their way, I'm sure all trees anywhere near the line would be removed. However, they do not have a free hand in this matter; they are expected to balance the eco-benefits of trees against the operational requirements of the railway, and many trees which can threaten the railway are on private land so they can't just go in willy-nilly and chop them down.
NR have done some serious clearances in various areas recently, and got a lot of flak for it. They are in a no-win position.
Disclosure: I don't work for NR, and I didn't work for them before I retired from the rail industry last year. I have a number of serious criticisms of NR. But in this respect they have a thankless task where they will never be able to please everybody.
There is also a tree fouling the return wire very close to the down fast just north of the station. Even though this image was taken around 16:30 the tree is as you would expect still there now.
You’ll note that it looks like this tree has fallen from a property next to the railway.
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PHILIPE
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According to some locals they have never seen floods so severe in Llanrwst
MadCommuter
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Not necessarily fools, but have a different opinion to you.
Scotrail314209
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Avanti are saying that they can use their ticket after 12pm tomorrow.
ChiefPlanner
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I am sure they do - (and it is appreciated) - we need to canvass for better funding for maintenance of same , as well as for better overall infrastructure capital schemes. Remember how the "pothole" issue was , by and large, given some practical improvement.
dk1
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They most certainly do.
LNW-GW Joint
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The Pennine (and Snowdonia) streams seem to have taken a pasting from the rain.
Meanwhile, in big river land, the Chester-Liverpool via Birkenhead (2tph) and Runcorn (1tph) seem to be holding up well.
The Warrington-Llandudno Jn (truncated by engineering work), seems to be working too, albeit with delays.
Chester-Crewe is often flood-prone but seems OK at the moment.
No real reason for Avanti not to be running as far as Llandudno Jn.
Meanwhile, in big river land, the Chester-Liverpool via Birkenhead (2tph) and Runcorn (1tph) seem to be holding up well.
The Warrington-Llandudno Jn (truncated by engineering work), seems to be working too, albeit with delays.
Chester-Crewe is often flood-prone but seems OK at the moment.
No real reason for Avanti not to be running as far as Llandudno Jn.
Or persuade those who neighbour the railway to cut own their trees. In my experience, well over half of ‘trees on the line’ incidents are caused by trees outside the boundary fence.
Bletchleyite
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Which is not going to be good enough for many who would get the sack for non-attendance at work. People need to be allowed to use the early morning trains if in this position (or as early as any run). Indeed, the standard rules, if the train was cancelled, do allow the use of the next train which might well be the first morning one.
Thus unable to travel "back tomorrow morning"
Avanti are still willing to sell very expensive walk up anytime fares though
Scotrail314209
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it’s what I don’t get either. I feel like Avanti are being stubborn saying they can’t use it until after 12pm. Maybe there is a reason, such as expecting units to be out of place.
I hope you're not suggesting that operators are trying to profit from this?
Bletchleyite
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Whether they intend to or not, they are certainly obtaining money on very morally questionable pretences from those who must, for work reasons, get home as soon as possible.
TrafficEng
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Do Network Rail have a legal power to require adjacent landowners to manage their trees?
There is a specific section of the Highways Act 1980 that allows an authority to take action against the owners of overgrowing or dangerous trees - not used often enough - but a power NR might want to seek if they do not already have it.
It does appear falling trees are a big issue this time round.
Nope, they are trying to manage the number of people travelling. It's sounds good though for a conspiracy
warwickshire
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cross country is after 0930.
Where do they say this? On their Twitter feed they have a pinned thread, the second post simply says...
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