I still question why Northern chose so many pacers to continue into 2020 when they are never going to be used. And why are they going to store them in Heaton? Only for them ending up back south for cold storage no doubt.
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I still question why Northern chose so many pacers to continue into 2020 when they are never going to be used. And why are they going to store them in Heaton? Only for them ending up back south for cold storage no doubt.
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No doubt it was a few months before the end of 2019 when they had to apply for the PRM dispensations. At that point they wouldn’t know exactly how many of the CAF sets would be in service, so applying for a “worst case” number of dispensations was a prudent thing to do. Can you imagine if the CAF sets hadn’t been in traffic and they didn’t have the dispensations in place, just what the reaction would have been?
It still begs the question why are most busy Southport services only formed of two carriages? Hopefully things will get better once the 769s are in service.
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Many thanks
IamTrainsYT
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now in realtime trains https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K06205/2020-02-10/detailed
Colby James
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We still don’t know which one is the third 142
IamTrainsYT
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We probably won’t do till the day
All the evidence indicates that the PRM dispensations were sought, and agreed, in December.
Jam tomorrow..
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Going by wikipedia, units 142028 and 142060 are being preserved by Wensleydale Railway. These are now highlighed purple on the list below.
Red - withdrawn.
Orange - scrapped / sent to be scrapped
Yellow - converted to other use (does not include food tins or razor blades).
Green - modified for Passengers of Reduced Mobility.
Blue - in storage.
Purple - preserved.
Pink - can operate provided that they are coupled to a PRM compliant unit.
Black - class 142 units that are still in service, subject to change in the coming months.
Class 142
001 - Unit preserved. Due to move to the National Railway Museum in York.
002 -
003 - in storage at Gascoigne Wood. Unit set to be preserved by a private owner.
004 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
005 - First to be withdrawn, now scrapped (updated as of 7th December 2019)
006 -
007 - was in storage at Barrow, moved to Heaton TMD and now at Gascoigne Wood.
008 - Scrapped (Collided with a class 87 at Winsford in 1999).
009 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury.
010 -
011 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
012 - at Landore TMD? being stripped of spare parts.
013 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
014 - was in warm storage at Heaton TMD, now at Gascoigne Wood.
015 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
016 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
017 - in storage at Worksop, Unit to be preserved at East Kent Railway?
018 - in warm store at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
019 - in storage at Worksop, unit to be preserved by the Waverley Route Heritage Association
020 - in storage at Worksop, unit to be preserved by the Waverley Route Heritage Association
021 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
022 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
023 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit, unit currently at Neville Hill TMD. (Unit to be preserved at Plym Valley Railway?)
024 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
025 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
026 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
027 - Unit preserved by Chasewater Railway as a spare parts donor for 029 and 039 + any other Pacer they aquire.
028 - currently in storage at Gascoigne Wood, unit to be preserved by Wensleydale Railway.
029 - Unit preserved at Chasewater Railway
030 - Unit preserved at Chasewater Railway
031 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
032 - in storage at Gascoigne Wood.
033 - Converted to a Police Training Unit by South Wales Police at Bridgend rugby pitch.
034 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
035 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
036 - Unit to be preserved at East Kent Railway (is this still going ahead?) - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
037 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
038 - in storage at Gascoigne Wood
039 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
040 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
041 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit. Currently at Allerton.
042 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
043 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
044 - Scrapped, second class 142 unit to be dismantled at CF Booths (the first being 005).
045 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
046 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
047 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
048 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
049 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury.
050 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
051 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
052 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
053 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
054 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
055 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
056 - in storage at Gascoigne Wood.
057 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
058 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
059 - Scrapped (Collided with buffer stops at Liverpool Lime Street in 1991.)
060 - in storage at Gascoigne Wood, unit to be preserved by Wensleydale Railway.
061 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
062 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
063 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
064 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
065 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
066 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
067 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
068 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
069 -
070 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
071 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
072 -
073 -
074 -
075 -
076 -
077 -
078 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
079 - at Landore TMD? being stripped of spare parts.
080 -
081 -
082 -
083 -
084 - Unit preserved by Rushden Historical Transport Society.
085 -
086 - at Canton, spare parts unit.
087 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
088 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury.
089 - was in warm storage at Newton Heath TMD, moved to Heaton TMD and now at Gascoigne Wood.
090 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
091 - Unit preserved by Rushden Historical Transport Society.
092 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
093 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury.
094 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
095 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
096 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury. The last of the class lost for good.
Class 143
601
602
603 - set to be preserved at the Swindon and Cricklade Railway
604
605
606
607
608
609
610
611
612
613 - Scrapped (Unit caught fire near Nailsea & Backwell in 2004).
614
615 - Scrapped (Unit caught fire in 2005).
616
617
618
619
620
621
622
623
624
625
Class 144 - All units stabled at Neville Hill TMD, can run on specified routes and can run solo.
001 - "Penistone Line Partnership"
002
003 - set to be preserved at the Great Central Railway at Ruddington.
004 - set to be preserved at Aln Valley railway, Alnmouth.
005
006
007
008
009
010
011
012 - 144 Evolution has full PRM modifications. (Possibly the last ever Pacer in service?)
013
014
015
016
017 - unit set to be preserved. First three car Pacer to be preserved.
018
019
020
021
022
023
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Red - withdrawn.
Orange - scrapped / sent to be scrapped
Yellow - converted to other use (does not include food tins or razor blades).
Green - modified for Passengers of Reduced Mobility.
Blue - in storage.
Purple - preserved.
Pink - can operate provided that they are coupled to a PRM compliant unit.
Black - class 142 units that are still in service, subject to change in the coming months.
Class 142
001 - Unit preserved. Due to move to the National Railway Museum in York.
002 -
003 - in storage at Gascoigne Wood. Unit set to be preserved by a private owner.
004 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
005 - First to be withdrawn, now scrapped (updated as of 7th December 2019)
006 -
007 - was in storage at Barrow, moved to Heaton TMD and now at Gascoigne Wood.
008 - Scrapped (Collided with a class 87 at Winsford in 1999).
009 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury.
010 -
011 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
012 - at Landore TMD? being stripped of spare parts.
013 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
014 - was in warm storage at Heaton TMD, now at Gascoigne Wood.
015 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
016 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
017 - in storage at Worksop, Unit to be preserved at East Kent Railway?
018 - in warm store at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
019 - in storage at Worksop, unit to be preserved by the Waverley Route Heritage Association
020 - in storage at Worksop, unit to be preserved by the Waverley Route Heritage Association
021 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
022 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
023 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit, unit currently at Neville Hill TMD. (Unit to be preserved at Plym Valley Railway?)
024 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
025 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
026 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
027 - Unit preserved by Chasewater Railway as a spare parts donor for 029 and 039 + any other Pacer they aquire.
028 - currently in storage at Gascoigne Wood, unit to be preserved by Wensleydale Railway.
029 - Unit preserved at Chasewater Railway
030 - Unit preserved at Chasewater Railway
031 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
032 - in storage at Gascoigne Wood.
033 - Converted to a Police Training Unit by South Wales Police at Bridgend rugby pitch.
034 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
035 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
036 - Unit to be preserved at East Kent Railway (is this still going ahead?) - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
037 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
038 - in storage at Gascoigne Wood
039 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
040 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
041 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit. Currently at Allerton.
042 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
043 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
044 - Scrapped, second class 142 unit to be dismantled at CF Booths (the first being 005).
045 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
046 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
047 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
048 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
049 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury.
050 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
051 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
052 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
053 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
054 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
055 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
056 - in storage at Gascoigne Wood.
057 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
058 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
059 - Scrapped (Collided with buffer stops at Liverpool Lime Street in 1991.)
060 - in storage at Gascoigne Wood, unit to be preserved by Wensleydale Railway.
061 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
062 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
063 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
064 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
065 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
066 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
067 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
068 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
069 -
070 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
071 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
072 -
073 -
074 -
075 -
076 -
077 -
078 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
079 - at Landore TMD? being stripped of spare parts.
080 -
081 -
082 -
083 -
084 - Unit preserved by Rushden Historical Transport Society.
085 -
086 - at Canton, spare parts unit.
087 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
088 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury.
089 - was in warm storage at Newton Heath TMD, moved to Heaton TMD and now at Gascoigne Wood.
090 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
091 - Unit preserved by Rushden Historical Transport Society.
092 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
093 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury.
094 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
095 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
096 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury. The last of the class lost for good.
Class 143
601
602
603 - set to be preserved at the Swindon and Cricklade Railway
604
605
606
607
608
609
610
611
612
613 - Scrapped (Unit caught fire near Nailsea & Backwell in 2004).
614
615 - Scrapped (Unit caught fire in 2005).
616
617
618
619
620
621
622
623
624
625
Class 144 - All units stabled at Neville Hill TMD, can run on specified routes and can run solo.
001 - "Penistone Line Partnership"
002
003 - set to be preserved at the Great Central Railway at Ruddington.
004 - set to be preserved at Aln Valley railway, Alnmouth.
005
006
007
008
009
010
011
012 - 144 Evolution has full PRM modifications. (Possibly the last ever Pacer in service?)
013
014
015
016
017 - unit set to be preserved. First three car Pacer to be preserved.
018
019
020
021
022
023
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IamTrainsYT
Member
Was also mentioned on here, there’s a 3rd unit going (currently unknown)
warwickshire
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also note was on clitheroes yesterday 142041 is back in service after repair i wonder iff this one will be one off the 4 to remain in service
Anonymous10
Established Member
They look nice and tbh a three car one if comfortable ie not bobbing and shaking and cheep could be useful here on branch lines
IamTrainsYT
Member
If it comes from a good source I’ll add it 
see https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/northern-pacer-withdrawals-info.166981/page-111#post-4454778
see https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/northern-pacer-withdrawals-info.166981/page-111#post-4454778
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61653 HTAFC
Veteran Member
Good news if true... shame it's not a 3-car but space is probably tight in that narrow valley!
IamTrainsYT
Member
142038 was supposed to go as well, had a fault apparently
If that’s true that Keighley are taking 144011 that’s excellent news as 144s have always been associated with West Yorkshire and have been passing through Keighley all their lives and also means not far for local enthusiasts to travel to.
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As it happens, 142038 has been purchased for another heritage line. They’ve managed to get the engines working too.
superkev
Established Member
Pity it isn't one of the 3 cars if they have room.
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Anonymous10
Established Member
Can't complain to much at least one will live on
IamTrainsYT
Member
what railway? i have it down as at gascoigne wood
TT-ONR-NRN
Established Member
Your bio says you’re fifteen so I cannot see you working for Northern, so do you mind if I ask where you get your information from?
IamTrainsYT
Member
You talking about this?Your bio says you’re fifteen so I cannot see you working for Northern, so do you mind if I ask where you get your information from?
If it comes from a good source I’ll add it
Last updated 10/2/20 at 08:37
Number - Operator - Livery - Depot - Notes
142001 - National Railway Museam - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Shildon - Donated by Angel Trains
142002 - Transport For Wales - TFW Black "The Start of a New Journey" - Cardiff Canton - Due to stay till 31/7/20
142003 - (unknown owner at present) - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Gascoigne Wood -
142004 - Northern - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Newton Heath - Due to stay till 31/5/20
142005 - C.F. Booths - N/A - N/A - Scrapped 3/12/19
142006 - Transport For Wales - TFW Black "The Start of a New Journey" - Cardiff Canton - Due to stay till 31/7/20
142007 - Off Lease - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Gascoigne Wood - Off Lease 5/1/20
142008 - Crewe Works - N/A - N/A - Scrapped 23/6/99 Due to The Winsford crash
142009 - EMR Kingsbury - N/A - N/A - Scrapped 28/1/20
142010 - Transport For Wales - TFW Black "The Start of a New Journey" - Cardiff Canton - Due to stay till 31/7/20
142011 - Northern - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Newton Heath - Due to stay till 31/5/20
142012 - Transport For Wales - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Landore - Use for spare parts
142013 - Northern - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Heaton - Warm Stored, Due to stay till 31/5/20
142014 - Off Lease - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Gascoigne Wood - Off lease 4/1/20
142015 - Newport Docks - N/A - N/A - Scrapped 7/1/20
142016 - EMR Kingsbury - N/A - N/A - Scrapped 19/12/19
142017 - East Kent Railway - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Worksop -
142018 - Northern - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Heaton - Warm Stored, Due to stay till 31/5/20
142019 - Waverley route heritage association - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Worksop -
142020 - Waverley route heritage association - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Worksop -
142021 - Newport Docks - N/A - N/A - scrapped 14/1/20
142022 - EMR Kingsbury - N/A - N/A - Scrapped 19/12/19
142023 - Northern - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Neville Hill - warm stored, Due to stay till 31/5/20, set to be preserved at the Plym valley railway
142024 - EMR Kingsbury - N/A - N/A - scrapped 20/1/20
142025 - EMR Kingsbury - N/A - N/A - Scrapped 19/12/19
142026 - Newport Docks - N/A - N/A - scrapped 14/1/20
142027 - Chasewater railway - N/A - N/A - Scrapped X/2/20, used as spares donor for there other units
142028 - Wensleydale Railway - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Gascoigne Wood -
142029 - Chasewarter Railway - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Chasewarter Railway -
142030 - Chasewarter Railway - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Chasewarter Railway -
142031 - EMR Kingsbury - N/A- N/A - Scrapped 10/1/20
142032 - Off Lease - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Gascoigne Wood - Off lease 4/1/20
142033 - South Wales Police - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Bridgend Rugby Pitch - For Police Training
142034 - Newport Docks - N/A - N/A - Scrapped 21/1/20
142035 - Northern - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Newton Heath - Due to stay till 31/5/20
142036 - Northern - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Newton Heath - Due to stay till 31/5/20, Set to be preserved at the east Kent Railway
142037 - EMR Kingsbury - N/A - N/A - Scrapped 20/12/19
142038 - Off Lease - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Gascoigne Wood - Off Lease 13/12/19
142039 - Newport Docks - N/A - N/A - Scrapped 10/1/20
142040 - Newport Docks - N/A - N/A - Scrapped 16/1/20
142041 - Northern - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Newton Heath - Due to stay till 31/5/20
142042 - Newport Docks - N/A - N/A - Scrapped 7/1/20
142043 - Northern - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Newton Heath - Due to stay till 31/5/20
142044 - C.F. Booths - N/A - N/A - Scrapped 5/12/19 Due to an Engine Fire
142045 - Northern - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Newton Heath - Due to stay till 31/5/20
142046 - Newport Docks - N/A - N/A - Scrapped 21/1/20
142047 - Northern - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Newton Heath - Due to stay till 31/5/20
142048 - EMR Kingsbury - N/A- N/A - Scrapped 10/1/20
142049 - EMR Kingsbury - N/A - N/A - Scrapped 28/1/20
142050 - Newport Docks - N/A - N/A - Scrapped 10/1/20
142051 - Northern - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Newton Heath - Due to stay till 31/5/20
142052 - EMR Kingsbury - N/A - N/A - Scrapped 20/12/19
142053 - EMR Kingsbury - N/A- N/A - Scrapped 10/1/20
142054 - EMR Kingsbury - N/A - N/A - Scrapped 20/1/20
142055 - Northern - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Newton Heath - Due to stay till 31/5/20
142056 - Off Lease - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Gascoigne Wood - Off Lease 5/1/20
142057 - Newport Docks - N/A - N/A - Scrapped 10/1/20
142058 - Northern - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Newton Heath - Due to stay till 31/5/20
142059 - Edge Hill - N/A - N/A - Scrapped 5/10/91 Due to running away because of faulty breaks
142060 - Wensleydale Railway - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Gascoigne Wood -
142061 - Northern - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Newton Heath - Due to stay till 31/5/20
142062 - EMR Kingsbury - N/A - N/A - Scrapped 20/1/20
142063 - Newport Docks - N/A - N/A - Scrapped 16/1/20
142064 - EMR Kingsbury - N/A - N/A - Scrapped 20/12/19
142065 - Northern - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Heaton - Warm Stored, Due to stay till 31/5/20
142066 - Newport Docks - N/A - N/A - Scrapped 7/1/20
142067 - Newport docks - N/A - N/A - Scrapped 16/1/20
142068 - Northern - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Heaton - Warm Stored, Due to stay till 31/5/20
142069 - Transport For Wales - TFW Black "The Start of a New Journey" - Cardiff Canton - Due to stay till 31/7/20
142070 - Northern - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Heaton - Warm Stored, Due to stay till 31/5/20
142071 - Northern - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Heaton - Warm Stored, Due to stay till 31/5/20
142072 - Transport For Wales - TFW Black "The Start of a New Journey" - Cardiff Canton - Due to stay till 31/7/20
142073 - Transport For Wales - TFW Black "The Start of a New Journey" - Cardiff Canton - Due to stay till 31/7/20
142074 - Transport For Wales - TFW Black "The Start of a New Journey" - Cardiff Canton - Due to stay till 31/7/20
142075 - Transport For Wales - TFW Black "The Start of a New Journey" - Cardiff Canton - Due to stay till 31/7/20
142076 - Transport For Wales - TFW Black "The Start of a New Journey" - Cardiff Canton - Due to stay till 31/7/20
142077 - Transport For Wales - TFW Black "The Start of a New Journey" - Cardiff Canton - Due to stay till 31/7/20
142078 - Northern - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Newton Heath - Due to stay till 31/5/20
142079 - Transport For Wales - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Landore - Use for spare parts
142080 - Transport For Wales - TFW Black "The Start of a New Journey" - Cardiff Canton - Due to stay till 31/7/20
142081 - Transport For Wales - TFW Black "The Start of a New Journey" - Cardiff Canton - Due to stay till 31/7/20
142082 - Transport For Wales - TFW Black "The Start of a New Journey" - Cardiff Canton - Due to stay till 31/7/20
142083 - Transport For Wales - TFW Black "The Start of a New Journey" - Cardiff Canton - Due to stay till 31/7/20
142084 - Rushden Railway - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Rushden Railway -
142085 - Transport For Wales - TFW Black "The Start of a New Journey" - Cardiff Canton - Due to stay till 31/7/20
142086 - Transport For Wales - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Cardiff Canton - Use for spare parts
142087 - Northern - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Heaton - Warm Stored, Due to stay till 31/5/20
142088 - EMR Kingsbury - N/A - N/A - Scrapped 12/12/19
142089 - Off Lease - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Gascoigne Wood - Off lease 4/1/20
142090 - Northern - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Newton Heath - Due to stay till 31/5/20
142091 - Rushden Railway - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Rushden Railway -
142092 - Newport Docks - N/A - N/A - scrapped 14/1/20
142093 - EMR Kingsbury - N/A - N/A - Scrapped 12/12/19
142094 - Northern - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Heaton - Warm Stored, Due to stay till 31/5/20
142095 - Northern - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Heaton - Warm Stored, Due to stay till 31/5/20
142096 - EMR Kingsbury - N/A - N/A - Scrapped 12/12/19
143601 - Transport For Wales - TFW Black "The Journey is Almost Over for Old Trains" - Cardiff Canton - Due to stay till 31/7/20
143602 - Transport For Wales - TFW Black "The Start of a New Journey" - Cardiff Canton - Due to stay till 31/7/20
143603 - Great Western Railway - GWR Green - Exeter - Set to be preserved at the Swindon and Cricklade Railway
143604 - Transport For Wales - TFW Black "The Start of a New Journey" - Cardiff Canton - Due to stay till 31/7/20
143605 - Transport For Wales - TFW Black "These Trains will Terminate Soon" - Cardiff Canton - Due to stay till 31/7/20
143606 - Transport For Wales - TFW Black "These Trains will Terminate Soon" - Cardiff Canton - Due to stay till 31/7/20
143607 - Transport For Wales - TFW Black "The Start of a New Journey" - Cardiff Canton - Due to stay till 31/7/20
143608 - Transport For Wales - TFW Black "The Journey is Almost Over for Old Trains - Cardiff Canton - Due to stay till 31/7/20
143609 - Transport For Wales - TFW Black "The Start of a New Journey" - Cardiff Canton - Due to stay till 31/7/20
143610 - Transport For Wales - TFW Black "The Journey is Almost Over for Old Trains" - Cardiff Canton - Due to stay till 31/7/20
143611 - Great Western Railway - GWR Green - Exeter -
143612 - Great Western Railway - GWR Green - Exeter -
143613 - Crewe Works- N/A - N/A - Scrapped 17/10/04 due to an engine fire
143614 - Transport For Wales - TFW Black "The Journey is Almost Over for Old Trains" - Cardiff Canton - Due to stay till 31/7/20
143615 - Crewe Works - N/A - N/A - Scrapped 26/4/04 due to an engine fire
143616 - Transport For Wales - TFW Black "These Trains will Terminate Soon" - Cardiff Canton - Due to stay till 31/7/20
143617 - Great Western Railway - GWR Green - Exeter -
143618 - Great Western Railway - GWR Green - Exeter -
143619 - Great Western Railway - GWR Green - Exeter -
143620 - Great Western Railway - GWR Green - Exeter -
143621 - Great Western Railway - GWR Green - Exeter -
143622 - Transport For Wales - TFW Black "These Trains will Terminate Soon" - Cardiff Canton - Due to stay till 31/7/20
143623 - Transport For Wales - TFW Black "These Trains will Terminate Soon" - Cardiff Canton - Due to stay till 31/7/20
143624 - Transport For Wales - TFW Black "The Journey is Almost Over for Old Trains" - Cardiff Canton - Due to stay till 31/7/20
143625 - Transport For Wales - TFW Black "The Start of a New Journey" - Cardiff Canton - Due to stay till 31/7/20
144001 - Northern - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Heaton - Named "The Penstone Line Partnership," Due to stay till 31/8/20
144002 - Northern - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Heaton - Due to stay till 31/8/20
144003 - Northern - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Heaton - Set to be preserved at the Great Central Railway Ruddington, Due to stay till 31/8/20
144004 - Northern - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Heaton - Due to stay till 31/8/20, set for preservation at the aln valley railway
144005 - Northern - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Heaton - Due to stay till 31/8/20
144006 - Northern - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Heaton - Due to stay till 31/8/20
144007 - Northern - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Heaton - Due to stay till 31/8/20
144008 - Northern - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Heaton - Due to stay till 31/8/20
144009 - Northern - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Heaton - Due to stay till 31/8/20
144010 - Northern - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Heaton - Due to stay till 31/8/20
144011 - Northern - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Heaton - Due to stay till 31/8/20, set to be preserved at the K&WVR
144012 - Northern - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Heaton - Class 144e, The only PRM Modified pacer, Due to stay till 31/8/20
144013 - Northern - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Heaton - Due to stay till 31/8/20
144014 - Northern - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Heaton - Due to stay till 31/8/20
144015 - Northern - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Heaton - Due to stay till 31/8/20
144016 - Northern - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Heaton - Due to stay till 31/8/20
144017 - Northern - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Heaton - Due to stay till 31/8/20, set for preservation (unknown owner)
144018 - Northern - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Heaton - Due to stay till 31/8/20
144019 - Northern - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Heaton - Due to stay till 31/8/20
144020 - Northern - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Heaton - Due to stay till 31/8/20
144021 - Northern - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Heaton - Due to stay till 31/8/20
144022 - Northern - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Heaton - Due to stay till 31/8/20
144023 - Northern - Unbranded Northern Purple and Blue - Heaton - Due to stay till 31/8/20
if so the list used to be fully purple blue and green, its slowly changed as units have gone off lease/been scrapped/been preserved (basically i have been watching the withdrawal very closely.) I hear about preserved units on here and facebook.
TT-ONR-NRN
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Oh no sorry I got confused with something else
Seán Elliott
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I’m not able to say at this stage, but as soon as I can, I will. You’re right - it is still at GW sidings but is going to be moved soon.
NorthernSpirit
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I've added 144011 and 142038 to the list as unit to be preserved and the two class 142's being used as route learning units, these RLU's have been highlighted yellow as they've been converted to another use i.e as a route learner. Once information comes to light on where 038 is going I'll add it to the list. Updates have also been made to 143603, as this was suppose to be preserved at Swindon and Cricklade, could it still end up being preserved but as a heritage spares unit?
Going by Wikipedia the Pacers that are being converted into radio station studios, hospital outbuildings, education establishments, etc are to be the class 142's.
Red - withdrawn.
Orange - scrapped / sent to be scrapped
Yellow - converted to other use (does not include food tins or razor blades).
Green - modified for Passengers of Reduced Mobility.
Blue - in storage.
Purple - preserved.
Pink - can operate provided that they are coupled to a PRM compliant unit.
Black - class 142 units that are still in service, subject to change in the coming months.
Class 142
001 - Unit preserved. Due to move to the National Railway Museum in York.
002 -
003 - in storage at Gascoigne Wood. Unit set to be preserved by a private owner.
004 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
005 - First to be withdrawn, now scrapped (updated as of 7th December 2019)
006 -
007 - was in storage at Barrow, moved to Heaton TMD and now at Gascoigne Wood.
008 - Scrapped (Collided with a class 87 at Winsford in 1999).
009 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury.
010 -
011 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
012 - Spare parts unit at Landore TMD.
013 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
014 - was in warm storage at Heaton TMD, now at Gascoigne Wood.
015 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
016 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
017 - in storage at Worksop, Unit to be preserved at East Kent Railway?
018 - in warm store at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
019 - in storage at Worksop, unit to be preserved by the Waverley Route Heritage Association
020 - in storage at Worksop, unit to be preserved by the Waverley Route Heritage Association
021 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
022 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
023 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit. Unit to be preserved at Plym Valley Railway?
024 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
025 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
026 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
027 - Unit preserved by Chasewater Railway as a spare parts donor for 029 and 030 + any other Pacer they aquire.
028 - Unit preserved by Wensleydale Railway
029 - Unit preserved at Chasewater Railway
030 - Unit preserved at Chasewater Railway
031 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
032 - in storage at Gascoigne Wood.
033 - Converted to a Police Training Unit by South Wales Police at Bridgend rugby pitch.
034 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
035 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
036 - Unit to be preserved at East Kent Railway - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
037 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
038 - in storage at Gascoigne Wood, unit to be preserved (location unknown).
039 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
040 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
041 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit. Currently at Allerton.
042 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
043 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
044 - Scrapped, second class 142 unit to be dismantled at CF Booths (the first being 005).
045 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
046 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
047 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
048 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
049 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury.
050 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
051 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
052 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
053 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
054 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
055 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
056 - in storage at Gascoigne Wood.
057 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
058 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
059 - Scrapped (Collided with buffer stops at Liverpool Lime Street in 1991.)
060 - Unit preserved by Wensleydale Railway.
061 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
062 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
063 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
064 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
065 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
066 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
067 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
068 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit. Currently being used as route learner unit between York and Scarborough.
069 -
070 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
071 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit. Currently being used as route learner unit between York and Scarborough.
072 -
073 -
074 -
075 -
076 -
077 -
078 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
079 - Spare parts unit at Landore TMD.
080 -
081 -
082 -
083 -
084 - Unit preserved by Rushden Historical Transport Society.
085 -
086 - Spare parts unit at Canton TMD.
087 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
088 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury.
089 - was in warm storage at Newton Heath TMD, moved to Heaton TMD and now at Gascoigne Wood.
090 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
091 - Unit preserved by Rushden Historical Transport Society.
092 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
093 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury.
094 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
095 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
096 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury. The last of the class lost for good.
Class 143
601
602
603 - set to be preserved at the Swindon and Cricklade Railway (due to damage at Dawlish, the unit may change).
604
605
606
607
608
609
610
611
612
613 - Scrapped (Unit caught fire near Nailsea & Backwell in 2004).
614
615 - Scrapped (Unit caught fire in 2005).
616
617
618
619
620
621
622
623
624
625
Class 144 - All units stabled at Neville Hill TMD, can run on specified routes and can run solo.
001 - "Penistone Line Partnership"
002
003 - unit to be preserved at the Great Central Railway at Ruddington.
004 - unit to be preserved at Aln Valley railway, Alnmouth.
005
006
007
008
009
010
011 - unit to be preserved at the Keighley & Worth Valley Railway (subject to confirmation)
012 - 144 Evolution has full PRM modifications. (Possibly the last ever Pacer in service?)
013
014
015
016
017 - unit set to be preserved. First three car Pacer to be preserved, location unknown.
018
019
020
021
022
023
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#leylandslastlap
Going by Wikipedia the Pacers that are being converted into radio station studios, hospital outbuildings, education establishments, etc are to be the class 142's.
Red - withdrawn.
Orange - scrapped / sent to be scrapped
Yellow - converted to other use (does not include food tins or razor blades).
Green - modified for Passengers of Reduced Mobility.
Blue - in storage.
Purple - preserved.
Pink - can operate provided that they are coupled to a PRM compliant unit.
Black - class 142 units that are still in service, subject to change in the coming months.
Class 142
001 - Unit preserved. Due to move to the National Railway Museum in York.
002 -
003 - in storage at Gascoigne Wood. Unit set to be preserved by a private owner.
004 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
005 - First to be withdrawn, now scrapped (updated as of 7th December 2019)
006 -
007 - was in storage at Barrow, moved to Heaton TMD and now at Gascoigne Wood.
008 - Scrapped (Collided with a class 87 at Winsford in 1999).
009 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury.
010 -
011 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
012 - Spare parts unit at Landore TMD.
013 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
014 - was in warm storage at Heaton TMD, now at Gascoigne Wood.
015 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
016 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
017 - in storage at Worksop, Unit to be preserved at East Kent Railway?
018 - in warm store at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
019 - in storage at Worksop, unit to be preserved by the Waverley Route Heritage Association
020 - in storage at Worksop, unit to be preserved by the Waverley Route Heritage Association
021 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
022 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
023 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit. Unit to be preserved at Plym Valley Railway?
024 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
025 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
026 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
027 - Unit preserved by Chasewater Railway as a spare parts donor for 029 and 030 + any other Pacer they aquire.
028 - Unit preserved by Wensleydale Railway
029 - Unit preserved at Chasewater Railway
030 - Unit preserved at Chasewater Railway
031 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
032 - in storage at Gascoigne Wood.
033 - Converted to a Police Training Unit by South Wales Police at Bridgend rugby pitch.
034 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
035 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
036 - Unit to be preserved at East Kent Railway - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
037 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
038 - in storage at Gascoigne Wood, unit to be preserved (location unknown).
039 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
040 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
041 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit. Currently at Allerton.
042 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
043 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
044 - Scrapped, second class 142 unit to be dismantled at CF Booths (the first being 005).
045 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
046 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
047 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
048 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
049 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury.
050 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
051 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
052 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
053 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
054 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
055 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
056 - in storage at Gascoigne Wood.
057 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
058 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
059 - Scrapped (Collided with buffer stops at Liverpool Lime Street in 1991.)
060 - Unit preserved by Wensleydale Railway.
061 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
062 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
063 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
064 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
065 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
066 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
067 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
068 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit. Currently being used as route learner unit between York and Scarborough.
069 -
070 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
071 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit. Currently being used as route learner unit between York and Scarborough.
072 -
073 -
074 -
075 -
076 -
077 -
078 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
079 - Spare parts unit at Landore TMD.
080 -
081 -
082 -
083 -
084 - Unit preserved by Rushden Historical Transport Society.
085 -
086 - Spare parts unit at Canton TMD.
087 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
088 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury.
089 - was in warm storage at Newton Heath TMD, moved to Heaton TMD and now at Gascoigne Wood.
090 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
091 - Unit preserved by Rushden Historical Transport Society.
092 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
093 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury.
094 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
095 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
096 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury. The last of the class lost for good.
Class 143
601
602
603 - set to be preserved at the Swindon and Cricklade Railway (due to damage at Dawlish, the unit may change).
604
605
606
607
608
609
610
611
612
613 - Scrapped (Unit caught fire near Nailsea & Backwell in 2004).
614
615 - Scrapped (Unit caught fire in 2005).
616
617
618
619
620
621
622
623
624
625
Class 144 - All units stabled at Neville Hill TMD, can run on specified routes and can run solo.
001 - "Penistone Line Partnership"
002
003 - unit to be preserved at the Great Central Railway at Ruddington.
004 - unit to be preserved at Aln Valley railway, Alnmouth.
005
006
007
008
009
010
011 - unit to be preserved at the Keighley & Worth Valley Railway (subject to confirmation)
012 - 144 Evolution has full PRM modifications. (Possibly the last ever Pacer in service?)
013
014
015
016
017 - unit set to be preserved. First three car Pacer to be preserved, location unknown.
018
019
020
021
022
023
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#leylandslastlap
IamTrainsYT
Member
Not 142s, its 143s or 144s. It was porterbrook that held the comp so it will be porterbrooks pacers
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