What blue/green liveried train did I see between Preston and Lancaster this morning?

randyrippley · 10 Feb 2020

Amid this mornings disruption seen from the M6 alongside the WCML between Lancaster - Preston heading south around 08:30
What looked like an AC powered three or four carriage PEP unit painted blue/green. Couldn't really look due to need to keep eyes on road, but closest livery was a Silverlink 313/1

Is there anything like that still around? What was it doing on the WCML? At the time it was seen, everything north of Preston was supposedly blocked

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IamTrainsYT · 10 Feb 2020

theres the ex class 508 barrier vehicles. ill have a look around and see if i can find anything else

Elecman · 10 Feb 2020

Sounds like a LNR liveried 350/4 working a TPE Service

Zooty · 10 Feb 2020

Elecman said:
Sounds like a LNR liveried 350/4 working a TPE Service

I agree. It'll have been 1M91 at that time.

MDB1images · 10 Feb 2020

350407 sounds likely.

IamTrainsYT · 10 Feb 2020

all but one of TPEs 350s are now in LNWR livery

randyrippley · 10 Feb 2020

Not convinced, nothing I've seen online for LNWR has both green and blue

IamTrainsYT · 10 Feb 2020

IamTrainsYT said:
theres the ex class 508 barrier vehicles. ill have a look around and see if i can find anything else

this?

IamTrainsYT · 10 Feb 2020

could it be one of avanti's 390155/390156?

driver9000 · 10 Feb 2020

IamTrainsYT said:
all but one of TPEs 350s are now in LNWR livery

All 350/4s are now in LNWR livery.

Mag_seven · 11 Feb 2020

IamTrainsYT said:
could it be one of avanti's 390155/390156?

No - the OP stated it was 3/4 coaches:

randyrippley said:
What looked like an AC powered three or four carriage PEP unit painted blue/green.

randyrippley · 11 Feb 2020

IamTrainsYT said:
could it be one of avanti's 390155/390156?

No
this was a three or four car EMU, mainly blue with what looked like green vinyls toward the coach ends

Doomotron · 11 Feb 2020

randyrippley said:
this was a three or four car EMU, mainly blue with what looked like green vinyls toward the coach ends

That sounds a lot like Railtrack.

Condor7 · 11 Feb 2020

What you are describing sounds just like the TPE class 350’s as has already been mentioned. These are four coaches long, it was at the time one was due, and again all but one has been repainted in a green/blue livery, because they were due to be taken over by LNWR but has been delayed.

Alternately it was one of the new TPE class 397’s which are predominately blue. The 350’s have blunt front and rear ends, the 397’s are more sleek and pointed. I hope that helps.

Doomotron · 11 Feb 2020

Condor7 said:
What you are describing sounds just like the TPE class 350’s as has already been mentioned. These are four coaches long, it was at the time one was due, and again all but one has been repainted in a green/blue livery, because they were due to be taken over by LNWR but has been delayed.

Alternately it was one of the new TPE class 397’s which are predominately blue. The 350’s have blunt front and rear ends, the 397’s are more sleek and pointed. I hope that helps.

However for both the most prominent colour is neither blue nor green. If it is 'PEP-looking', it could be a Railtrack Class 950, is there are any in that colour scheme.

driver9000 · 11 Feb 2020

Doomotron said:
However for both the most prominent colour is neither blue nor green. If it is 'PEP-looking', it could be a Railtrack Class 950, is there are any in that colour scheme.

The only 950 in existence is bright yellow.

In some lights the LNWR livery can appear to have a blue hue to it so I'm going with the OP seeing a 350/4.

Townsend Hook · 11 Feb 2020

Doomotron said:
However for both the most prominent colour is neither blue nor green. If it is 'PEP-looking', it could be a Railtrack Class 950, is there are any in that colour scheme.

There is one 950; it is in bright, Network Rail sunshine yellow and it is currently in the West Country. I think it can be safely discounted.

High Dyke · 11 Feb 2020

IamTrainsYT said:
could it be one of avanti's 390155/390156?

Urgh...! Who thought of that livery?

kc_ · 11 Feb 2020

View media item 3591
A picture of a LNWR liveried 350/4, for OP's benefit.

rebmcr · 11 Feb 2020

What about the London Midland-branded 150/1s that Northern have been using? They look much more like PEPs than 350s do, especially from the side.

IamTrainsYT · 11 Feb 2020

Are any LNWR 319s on lease to northern?

NORMAN471 · 11 Feb 2020

rebmcr said:
What about the London Midland-branded 150/1s that Northern have been using? They look much more like PEPs than 350s do, especially from the side.

Another possibility could be 156461 in Ravenglass and Eskdale Vinyls or 156464 in Lancashire Dalesrail Vinyls. This begs the question as to what are the possibilities of advertising vinyls being used in the future after all the Northern Units have been reliveried in white? Is there an agreed time that Advertising Vinyls remain if there has been a contract between the TOC and the tourism promoter and money paid by them? Thinking Lancashire, Yorkshire and Cumbria advertising on class 150s/155s/156s/158s in recent years. Why have 156461 and 464 remained this way for so long?

randyrippley · 11 Feb 2020

rebmcr said:
What about the London Midland-branded 150/1s that Northern have been using? They look much more like PEPs than 350s do, especially from the side.

it was an EMU

randyrippley · 11 Feb 2020

kc_ said:
View media item 3591
A picture of a LNWR liveried 350/4, for OP's benefit.

what happened to the pic?

Darandio · 11 Feb 2020

randyrippley said:
what happened to the pic?

This is what the majority are suggesting.

https://flic.kr/p/2iptC1T

IamTrainsYT · 11 Feb 2020

NORMAN471 said:
Another possibility could be 156461 in Ravenglass and Eskdale Vinyls or 156464 in Lancashire Dalesrail Vinyls. This begs the question as to what are the possibilities of advertising vinyls being used in the future after all the Northern Units have been reliveried in white? Is there an agreed time that Advertising Vinyls remain if there has been a contract between the TOC and the tourism promoter and money paid by them? Thinking Lancashire, Yorkshire and Cumbria advertising on class 150s/155s/156s/158s in recent years. Why have 156461 and 464 remained this way for so long?

There is 156480

kc_ · 11 Feb 2020

randyrippley said:
what happened to the pic?

Shows

randyrippley said:
what happened to the pic?

I must have some permission set wrong. Uploaded to gallery and attached that. Only when I viewed it logged out that I see what you meant.

randyrippley · 11 Feb 2020

kc_ said:
Shows

I must have some permission set wrong. Uploaded to gallery and attached that. Only when I viewed it logged out that I see what you meant.

It might be because you're a relatively new member

randyrippley · 11 Feb 2020

Darandio said:
This is what the majority are suggesting.

https://flic.kr/p/2iptC1T

Nothing like it
What I saw had full yellow ends, mainly blue paintwork with green vinyls on top.
As I said before, it looked similar colours to the old Silverlink livery.

And remember that morning TPE weren't running north of Preston, so the chances of it being one of theirs seems low

rebmcr · 11 Feb 2020

kc_ said:
I must have some permission set wrong. Uploaded to gallery and attached that. Only when I viewed it logged out that I see what you meant.

That happens because the camera/image buttons in the toolbar (and the gallery they feed) are a relatively unused feature.

We're supposed to use the red "Upload a File" button underneath instead.

What blue/green liveried train did I see between Preston and Lancaster this morning?

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