bassmike
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Those tracks look fairly well used to me.
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When Posh People Trespass
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Thanks Peter.
Ashley Hill
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I can't remember who's book it was in but apparently opening the cylinder cocks and then the regulator cleared a pack of hounds in steam days.
Kneedown
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Most of the countryside, as well as towns and cities are "known fox habitats" these days.
DarloRich
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right. You must know different people to me. Normal people tend not to own a big house, land, stables, horses, 4x4, horseboxes and silly outfits! Lots of space for a massive horse out the back of my terrace.
Foxes are a menace and need to be controlled. They don't need to be controlled by plummy twonks in silly outfits chasing them on horse back and ripping them to bits with dogs.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-43419711 encouraged by being let off previously
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Spartacus
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I think one has a 4x4, but it’s a beaten up old Toyota that looks like it’s done an event on Top Gear, but apart from owning horses the rest doesn’t fit. Stables and paddocks rented, and for all but the top and over enthusiastic they’ve never needed to wear ‘silly outfits’. Both from a working class background. Both spend little on anything but the horses.
Neither bothers with hunts that I know of any more, it simply wasn’t the riding that they wanted to do. Both said that they rarely saw a fox when they did though.
Agreed on trespassing though, should be the same treatment for all, but there’s plenty in different areas of society that get beneficial treatment, from top to bottom. Just think of others who typically have 4x4s and a liking for trespassing, but they’re far more likely to have caravans than horses these days.
bramling
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The sort of grey area is non-operational railways, which this one by the sound of it wasn't as it was still on paper open to traffic. No one is going to be prosecuted for walking their dog on, for example, the Leamside Line (before the track was lifted), and it certainly wouldn't be in the public interest to do so.
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DarloRich
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like I said : you must know different to people than me. They do own a beaten up 4x4 for farm use but also own a range rover and a massive mercedes horse lorry!
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If that puts me on the 'disgusted bus' then I'll volunteer to drive it
Can you sign up for rail replacement duties during the height of storm Dennis?
It is not even an effective way of controlling foxes.
bramling
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I’m not sure anyone *really* believes it’s about controlling foxes.
I have to say I tend to agree with the sentiments that I don’t really get why anyone would derive pleasure out of seeing one animal tear another animal apart alive. Having said that, this does seem to be what nature intended - although I don’t think humans should encourage it.
Naturally the cause would be better served by a cold rational debate, rather than bringing in emotive issues like class.
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SlimJim1694
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Anybody who goes hunting for sport, or derives pleasure from hurting living things is a vile scumbag in my opinion. Whether or not they are posh or trespassers doesn't change this.
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The problem I see is that these red suited morons on horseback will one day see themselves and prized four legged nag in bits after some diesel multiple unit has collided with them. No doubt the "organisers" would sue the railway for simply being there.
Kneedown
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I've never been a fan of fox hunting, but when it comes to shooting and fishing it all ends up in the pot. It's the most ethical way of putting meat on the table. Far more than anything that has been intensively reared in cramped conditions on a high output farm.
GRALISTAIR
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I don’t want to get political because I have promised the mods I won’t. I live in the USA and hunting is a way of life. But is almost always for food and not sport so I agree. Even if it ( hunting) is for food the proponents MUST NOT trespass on the railway.
noddingdonkey
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Ivor the Engine features such a storyline.
That is fine if the hunting is for food. If it is for pleasure, I have to ask why it is pleasurable to kill things, and what sort of mindset it requires to think like that.
Deepgreen
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The problem I have is that it doesn't all end up in the pot - much of fishing's catch is thrown back (after a lip-ripping fight) or taken as trophies. Many shoots are for sport - not for food. I've never heard of fox on a menu either. I'm a carnivore, but I don't enjoy the so-called 'challenge' of hunting creatures which have no artificial means to combat our weapons, etc.
A quick and clean kill after a life in the wild is an ideal way to obtain meat, but that's not what fox hunting (or sport fishing, etc.) is about.
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