PHILIPE
Veteran Member
Any idea how long the reopening will take?
Dovey Jn and Cambrian Coast latest estimate is Monday. Conwy Valley, shall we say, indefinite
Any idea how long the reopening will take?
Monday is the Aberystwyth srction, not the coast north.Dovey Jn and Cambrian Coast latest estimate is Monday. Conwy Valley, shall we say, indefinite
Dovey Jn and Cambrian Coast latest estimate is Monday. Conwy Valley, shall we say, indefinite
How extensive is the Conwy Valley damage, or haven't they surveyed it yet? The photo I've seen just looked like a ballast washout from a concrete base which I guess was put there as a result of the last set of damage.
Did you see my pictures above of Dolgarrog station, the new still unopened station under water?
I did, but a concrete platform being underwater doesn't necessarily mean it's damaged (I believe they've piled down to avoid it floating away). I'd imagine they might need a new digger, though.
But the track was 4ft below that platform...I doubt that will be looking great.
Such a waste of money and carbon putting that PIS in - how many trains a day are there, how many passengers? I assume there is also a help point so surely a timetable and a help point is plenty?
I guess it will get told it’s only (yet more) marginal cost.....
The vast majority (if not nearly all) of Welsh stations have PIS installed. Yes including some rural halts on the Heart of Wales line
Such a waste of money and carbon putting that PIS in - how many trains a day are there, how many passengers? I assume there is also a help point so surely a timetable and a help point is plenty?
I guess it will get told it’s only (yet more) marginal cost.....
Ok. Having a PIS but no help point seems a bit odd.Every station in Wales has a PIS which forms part of making stations more accessible for people with a visual or hearing impairment hence why they’re also part of PRM mod specs on trains. Playing the carbon card could be seen as a weak argument seeing as the PIS have LED displays which are very efficient and no, there’s no help point.
Even Sugar Loaf already had a PIS display when I caught a train from there in November 2013. It, a bus-type shelter, and two lampposts were the only platform furniture.The vast majority (if not nearly all) of Welsh stations have PIS installed. Yes including some rural halts on the Heart of Wales line
Instead of closing the Conwy valley line why not just withdraw national rail trains and transform it into a tourist railway, perhaps as an extension of the Ffestiniog railway?
Unfortunately in my experience, the system on the Heart of Wales only shows the timetabled departure times, not what's actually happening. When a train is running late, the PIS clears and shows the next train (in 4 or 5 hours time) before it arrives. At Llanwrtyd, I've had to reassure other passengers that their train is still coming, based on RTT, but of course that only works in areas with data reception.PIS is important at unstaffed and infrequently served stations. If there's only a train every three hours you want to know if it's coming or not! It's not a waste of money, if you're going to run a train service on the line then you should be providing information at its stations.
Unfortunately in my experience, the system on the Heart of Wales only shows the timetabled departure times, not what's actually happening. When a train is running late, the PIS clears and shows the next train (in 4 or 5 hours time) before it arrives. At Llanwrtyd, I've had to reassure other passengers that their train is still coming, based on RTT, but of course that only works in areas with data reception.
That's bad, I'd say a PIS that just displays the timetable and not the real time information is worse than just having a timetable board!
One does wonder whether PIS at some of these places has already become an anachronism, with the spread of real-time apps.
Something like OTT or RTTT is far more useful in my view. It wouldn’t be too much of a step forward for the industry to develop their own official version which puts the information into a format aimed at the less operationally-award traveller.
Obviously there is the slight issue that there will be a few places where it’s not possible to get a data signal.
Instead of closing the Conwy valley line why not just withdraw national rail trains and transform it into a tourist railway, perhaps as an extension of the Ffestiniog railway?
One does wonder whether PIS at some of these places has already become an anachronism, with the spread of real-time apps.
Something like OTT or RTTT is far more useful in my view. It wouldn’t be too much of a step forward for the industry to develop their own official version which puts the information into a format aimed at the less operationally-award traveller.
Obviously there is the slight issue that there will be a few places where it’s not possible to get a data signal.
Yep, one extra unit would enable a 90 minute frequency, shame no attempt is made to coordinate bus times at Betws or Blaenau even the County Council subsidised ones!Those of us who live here would love to see a proper, usable service, which would take us out of the mercy of the commercial bus route gods! A 90 minute service would be marvellous. Contrary to popular belief, we're more than a tourist attraction
I think it’s due to the time measurement locations - I’m pretty sure on the HOW it’s just the stations at the loops, such as Knighton, Llandrindod, Llanwrtyd, Llandovery and Llandeilo. The PIS and online systems will assume the train is running as it was from the previous timing point, so if the train is delayed by a few minutes between Llandrindod and Llanwrtyd, it will disappear off the PIS at subsequent stations if it doesn’t depart by the ‘expected’ time. It happens on the Cambrian Coast too. Some of the rural stations have a help point or a phone, but not all.That's bad, I'd say a PIS that just displays the timetable and not the real time information is worse than just having a timetable board!
My experience of trying to use a "Help point" (at Edale) was that the Indian call centre person assured me that the train was running & was on time, but couldn't answer why it hadn't arrived, or even accept that it hadn't, almost refused to believe that I had been standing on the platform for well over 1/4 hour! I cut the call when a train approached... which hammered straight through. Our stopper arrived not long after, however.I think it’s due to the time measurement locations - I’m pretty sure on the HOW it’s just the stations at the loops, such as Knighton, Llandrindod, Llanwrtyd, Llandovery and Llandeilo. The PIS and online systems will assume the train is running as it was from the previous timing point, so if the train is delayed by a few minutes between Llandrindod and Llanwrtyd, it will disappear off the PIS at subsequent stations if it doesn’t depart by the ‘expected’ time. It happens on the Cambrian Coast too. Some of the rural stations have a help point or a phone, but not all.
Instead of closing the Conwy valley line why not just withdraw national rail trains and transform it into a tourist railway, perhaps as an extension of the Ffestiniog railway?
My experience of trying to use a "Help point" (at Edale) was that the Indian call centre person assured me that the train was running & was on time, but couldn't answer why it hadn't arrived, or even accept that it hadn't, almost refused to believe that I had been standing on the platform for well over 1/4 hour! I cut the call when a train approached... which hammered straight through. Our stopper arrived not long after, however.
If this is the norm then maintaining a "help point" is money down the drain.