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lae150

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Hi all
Picked this plate up today which i believe is a bridge plate or shed plate? Does anyone know any history for it like where it came from?
Thanks :)
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Hello lae150,

It's definitely a bridge number plate. The B100 code at the bottom is the casting pattern number. The high number could mean it could be from the East Coast main line, probably around Lincolnshire or thereabouts. You would need to consult a copy of the LNER Bridge Book to be certain.

If you are a Coronation Street fan, Roy Cropper has a LNER bridge plate on the wall of his cafe!

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lae150

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Thanks all! I'll see if i can find the LNER Bridge Book for more info
 

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From a quick skim of recent-ish records, the bridges on the ECML appear to:
  • Start from 1 at Kings Cross then get somewhere beyond 300 north of Doncaster, not possible to tell where this series originally ended as the rest of the section is closed (but I would guess the former Chaloners Whin junction south of York).
  • Start again from 1 somewhere around York and get into the 260s at Newcastle.
  • Start again from Newcastle counting up to 202 at the Scottish border.
  • Count backwards from 158 at the border to 1 at Edinburgh.
So I think a number as high as 1736 is improbable unless there was some kind of grand bridge renumbering at some stage - and if that happened it's unlikely today's numbering would still be based on the pre-Grouping company boundaries.
 

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The Railway Performance Society Distance Charts contain some information about bridge locations & identities, and the 17xx number series refers to ex-GER lines. There is a Bridge Number 1736 at Mileage 73m 19c, Catchwater Drain, on the line from Ely to Kings Lynn.
How a plate in good condition from a bridge that still exists found its way to an auction is a question for someone else to answer.
 

lae150

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The Railway Performance Society Distance Charts contain some information about bridge locations & identities, and the 17xx number series refers to ex-GER lines. There is a Bridge Number 1736 at Mileage 73m 19c, Catchwater Drain, on the line from Ely to Kings Lynn.
How a plate in good condition from a bridge that still exists found its way to an auction is a question for someone else to answer.
Thanks for this. That area is pretty local to where the auction was which is interesting..
 

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The Railway Performance Society Distance Charts contain some information about bridge locations & identities, and the 17xx number series refers to ex-GER lines. There is a Bridge Number 1736 at Mileage 73m 19c, Catchwater Drain, on the line from Ely to Kings Lynn.
How a plate in good condition from a bridge that still exists found its way to an auction is a question for someone else to answer.

TBF Network Rail has tended to apply its own modern bridge plates which include contact details in case of any incident. It's quite possible that there is no room in some cases for the original plate to stay in situ so removal and disposal of same would be perfectly reasonable.
 

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From a quick skim of recent-ish records, the bridges on the ECML appear to:
  • Start from 1 at Kings Cross then get somewhere beyond 300 north of Doncaster, not possible to tell where this series originally ended as the rest of the section is closed (but I would guess the former Chaloners Whin junction south of York).
  • Start again from 1 somewhere around York and get into the 260s at Newcastle.
  • Start again from Newcastle counting up to 202 at the Scottish border.
  • Count backwards from 158 at the border to 1 at Edinburgh.
So I think a number as high as 1736 is improbable unless there was some kind of grand bridge renumbering at some stage - and if that happened it's unlikely today's numbering would still be based on the pre-Grouping company boundaries.

North of Doncaster / South of York the Bridge 1 plate will be at Shaftholme Jcn the former boundary between the Great Northern Rly and the North Eastern Railway.
 

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Don't suppose the auctioneers gave any details re provenance?
Just as long as it wasn't from a certain Mr Lovejoy... ;)
Its only 50 miles between Long Melford and Kings Lynn so Lovejoy could have it legitimately..................
 

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TBF Network Rail has tended to apply its own modern bridge plates which include contact details in case of any incident. It's quite possible that there is no room in some cases for the original plate to stay in situ so removal and disposal of same would be perfectly reasonable.
The signs with contact details are at road level and the oval bridge plates are at rail level, and in any case Catchwater Drain sounds like a watercourse so bridge strikes are unlikely. Newer bridge plates include the ELR and I think the mileage as well, but I don't think old ones are replaced unless they are missing or damaged.
North of Doncaster / South of York the Bridge 1 plate will be at Shaftholme Jcn the former boundary between the Great Northern Rly and the North Eastern Railway.
That would certainly make sense. Unfortunately the plans I was consulting didn't include bridge numbering for that area.
 
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