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Storm Dennis disruption 15th & 16th

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The Cowley Bridge sausage has been readied:
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The river is high at the moment and still rising.
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It’ll take a while for the water to work its way down from Exmoor and other high ground, it’s still raining here too.
 
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Disappointing if true since a massive new culvert has gone in there. from the pictures above it looks like the culvert fails to remedy the flood threat.
I think it’s fingers crossed time. There’s heavy rain/hail due on Exmoor for the rest of the day so it could get a lot worse. That said though the river still has a little way to go before it gets to the point of going over the track and I think that new culvert is helping to empty the pinch point which used to cause the main problems.
 

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Disappointing if true since a new culvert has gone in there. from the pictures above it looks like the culvert fails to remedy the flood threat.

The new culvert and the other measures, such as putting electrical kit in the area up on raised platforms, were meant to mitigate the flooding threat to the railway, not eliminate it.

Had things been left as they were, then the odds are the line would have been under water some time ago.
 

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The new culvert and the other measures, such as putting electrical kit in the area up on raised platforms, were meant to mitigate the flooding threat to the railway, not eliminate it.

Had things been left as they were, then the odds are the line would have been under water some time ago.
Indeed, and the very end of the Rail Engineer article, linked in post #122, does explain that the intention is only to reduce the frequency of threat:
“For the River Exe site, the project team estimates that a severe event, maybe closing the railway, will now occur only once every 10 years instead of once every two”.
 

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Ironically, one of the reasons the Conwy Valley line is so prone to flooding is due to the railway itself. Conwy Cob (the causeway carrying the railway and road between Llandudno Junction and Conwy) massively restricts the mouth of the river from what it naturally would be. It pre-dates the railway of course, but its permanent existence was set in stone when the railway came along and joined the road.

Conwy Cob. Thank you for the background.
 

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Think that the reference is related to travelling in a car in 80 mph winds rather than the abilities of a taxi driver, I would certainly prefer riding in the rear car of a train to in a taxi in extreme winds
 

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The Conwy valley line really isn't very robust. Granted it may be a bit of a Cinderella route. If it is to be kept open and developed it needs some sort of major works to keep it in service.

They did do some preventative work last time. Will be interested to see if that means a quicker reopening.
 

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IOW an excuse. As a passenger I say yes, they should run.

Fancy setting up your own bus company and taking responsibility for putting your staff and assets (not to mention customers) out in such dangerous conditions?

Clearly replacements should be implemented once things have settled down for those sections of railway not able to be immediately re-opened, however I think it’s unrealistic to expect a coach to appear out of nowhere and attempt to, quite literally, brave a storm.

As someone else posted elsewhere, sometimes we have to accept that on rare occasions we simply can’t expect to be able to do exactly what we want to do.
 

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I am on a Liverpool bound Avanti and we have stopped just before Runcorn as the wires are down ahead of us. Nearly made it!!! Very annoying!!!

Confusingly, the Liverpool to London has just thundered past us. Is it possible for the wires to be down on one track and the other track be open on a two track section? I would have thought both would need to be isolated/closed.
 
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The new culvert and the other measures, such as putting electrical kit in the area up on raised platforms, were meant to mitigate the flooding threat to the railway, not eliminate it.

Had things been left as they were, then the odds are the line would have been under water some time ago.
Yes that's what I thought. As long as it mitigates the serious damage, then closing the line on/off every now and then is a very small price to pay.
 

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The South West is completely kyboshed, as the Exeter-Taunton and Exeter-Yeovil Junction are closed due to Flooding, so no through trains, Rail replacement coach Exeter-Taunton, am Taxi Driver and was working at Tiverton Parkway today(sun 16th Feb), had white papers to Taunton and Exeter, as the coaches weren’t calling in at Parkway, as presume they were already full, there were extra staff bought in to help sort out coaches and passengers, they did a good job in trying circumstances, was glad could help them.
 

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Currently on a slight detour trying to get up to Stoke from Brum, going via Coventry and Nuneaton, going to be a bit annoyed if the LNWR effort that should leave 20 after this one did actually does get through and isn't cancelled like everything before it

Edit - that one got cancelled as well, this is fine
 
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Currently on a slight detour trying to get up to Stoke from Brum, going via Coventry and Nuneaton, going to be a bit annoyed if the LNWR effort that should leave 20 after this one did actually does get through and isn't cancelled like everything before it

I'm afraid that once again there are problems at Penkridge.
 

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Currently on a slight detour trying to get up to Stoke from Brum, going via Coventry and Nuneaton, going to be a bit annoyed if the LNWR effort that should leave 20 after this one did actually does get through and isn't cancelled like everything before it

I'm afraid that once again there are problems at Penkridge.

I’m not surprised, there’s flood warnings in place all around that part of the world. I was though on the WCML a couple of hours ago and the countryside was underwater pretty much everywhere from Rugeley to Norton Bridge.
 

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I’m not surprised, there’s flood warnings in place all around that part of the world. I was though on the WCML a couple of hours ago and the countryside was underwater pretty much everywhere from Rugeley to Norton Bridge.

There is overhead wire damage between Stafford and Penkridge. Whether it is weather related I do not know.
 

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Extensive flooding at Sway in New Forest with up and down line under water. Looks like mainline to Bournemouth and weymouth will stay closed tomorrow at least .
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At one stage this morning EVERY rail route out of Shrewsbury was closed due to flooding.
Machy to Newtown was due to high river levels at the Black Bridge, plus there were problems between Welshpool and Shrewsbury.
At one stage there was only one road open out of Welshpool, and that was dubious in places. All 4 of the A roads out of the town were closed.
Heart of Wales line was flooded at Knighton.
 

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I’m not surprised, there’s flood warnings in place all around that part of the world. I was though on the WCML a couple of hours ago and the countryside was underwater pretty much everywhere from Rugeley to Norton Bridge.
It's called the Trent Valley line for a reason! (although it is usually well above river level...)
 

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I think it’s fingers crossed time. There’s heavy rain/hail due on Exmoor for the rest of the day so it could get a lot worse. That said though the river still has a little way to go before it gets to the point of going over the track and I think that new culvert is helping to empty the pinch point which used to cause the main problems.
And plans to divert via Yeovil have had to be abandoned owing to flooding that way as well.
RRBs are (supposedly) operating, it being a "planned" closure and a mainly motorway route.
 

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The Cowley Bridge sausage has been readied:
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The river is high at the moment and still rising.
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It’ll take a while for the water to work its way down from Exmoor and other high ground, it’s still raining here too.

Whilst its premptive isn't this a bit too much so? The line is dry at the moment shouldn't the Orange Army be 'waiting' to deploy the 'sausage' not having already deployed it and 'run' away?
 

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Whilst its premptive isn't this a bit too much so? The line is dry at the moment shouldn't the Orange Army be 'waiting' to deploy the 'sausage' not having already deployed it and 'run' away?
I mean I don’t know to be honest, and I’m struggling to get beyond the phrase ‘Deploy the sausage’ today... :lol:
 

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I am on a Liverpool bound Avanti and we have stopped just before Runcorn as the wires are down ahead of us. Nearly made it!!! Very annoying!!!
Confusingly, the Liverpool to London has just thundered past us. Is it possible for the wires to be down on one track and the other track be open on a two track section? I would have thought both would need to be isolated/closed.

Avanti are diverting via Warrington now.
Not much help if you are on the direct route though.
Chester-Runcorn-Liverpool (diesel) trains cancelled too.
 

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It's called the Trent Valley line for a reason! (although it is usually well above river level...)

And Doxey Marsh (north of Stafford) and, to a lesser extent, the Sow Meadows (south of Stafford) are part of the flood defences for the area.
 

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Whilst its premptive isn't this a bit too much so? The line is dry at the moment shouldn't the Orange Army be 'waiting' to deploy the 'sausage' not having already deployed it and 'run' away?

There is often a 24 hour delay when the water / flooding on Exmoor and Dartmoor flows down - much like what falls in Mid-Wales - gets to the lower / mid Severn Valley later on , Worcester etc area . Being proactive is very ,very sensible. A long standing policy.

(Unprecedented flooding off the Brecon Beacons is causing havoc further down in the Upper Swansea Valley - alas there are no longer any railways to be affected)
 

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And Doxey Marsh (north of Stafford) and, to a lesser extent, the Sow Meadows (south of Stafford) are part of the flood defences for the area.

Izaak Walton might (if he were still around) - get some good fishing in then :D - have to say there was a lot of water (and lying snow) on a trip to Liverpool last week. Not been much chance for last weeks offerings to percolate down into a saturated sub soil.
 

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There is often a 24 hour delay when the water / flooding on Exmoor and Dartmoor flows down - much like what falls in Mid-Wales - gets to the lower / mid Severn Valley later on , Worcester etc area . Being proactive is very ,very sensible. A long standing policy.

(Unprecedented flooding off the Brecon Beacons is causing havoc further down in the Upper Swansea Valley - alas there are no longer any railways to be affected)

It’s also having an effect on the Marches line south of Abergavenny and in the Glamorgan Valleys.
 
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