gazthomas
Established Member
I doubt they have!Because the Ffestiniog have the cash and resources to rebuild the Conwy Valley when it's washed away every winter...
I doubt they have!Because the Ffestiniog have the cash and resources to rebuild the Conwy Valley when it's washed away every winter...
Track is responsibilty of NRI doubt they have!
Indeed it is, as well as being a different gauge and not a tourist only railwayTrack is responsibilty of NR
You recall correctly.
The following site has some notes and photographs.
https://2d53.co.uk/cambriancoast/Pwllheli - 26-12-80.htm
Yep, one extra unit would enable a 90 minute frequency, shame no attempt is made to coordinate bus times at Betws or Blaenau even the County Council subsidised ones!
No through ticketing either apart from the highly secretive North Wales Day Rover ticket!
Back to the Cambrian:
RRB's suspended this evening as Shrewsbury Station is now longer accessible by road, and the Police closing all road access into the centre.
Still raining in those parts, or is it because of the delayed effect of the run-off from fields etc?
Still raining in those parts, or is it because of the delayed effect of the run-off from fields etc?
There is more rain expected for the Mid Wales area in the next 48 hours , and as said before , there is a time delay in getting the impacts downstream. Media is full of the rain impacts on the Severn and other key rivers.
Geographer by training , railwayman by experience (retired)
Fair enough. I was in the Welsh mountains at the weekend (sort of) and there was no shortage of a little more than the usual Welsh mild drizzle!
Well you must have been well north of here!
Does Network Rail have the authority to withdraw from maintaining the line if it feels it's wasting money?
No (simple answer). Closures are not within its remit in that sense; it is not for Network Rail to decide if a line is worthwhile or not.
Network Rail gets paid to maintain all routes in a 'steady state'. Enhancements are a separate pot. If the cost of maintaining a particular line (or indeed all lines) increases beyond the amount agreed, this will need to be built into the bid for the next five-year plan. This may or may not get agreed in which case the provider of funds (ultimately the government/s) will need to agree with Network Rail which areas of maintenance are to be reduced eg lower line speeds or cut entirely ie closed. The DfT in England, or the devolved administrations in Wales and Scotland would need to go through any closure procedures, paying to maintain the line in the interim.Regarding the Conwy Valley line
I get the impression that it's taking longer each time the line gets washed out to bring it back to a serviceable condition.
Does Network Rail have the authority to withdraw from maintaining the line if it feels it's wasting money?
They ought to have the numbers, I doubt they would release them to the public. It would take us back to Beeching style assessments of routes costs and their contribution to revenue. Not many people believed the numbers at the time eg passenger surveys being carried out on the coldest and wettest days on branch lines where, perhaps, the decision had already been taken.Does Network Rail have the Detail to say “this line cost X millions to maintain the last ten years” and would they be allowed to release that?
Fair enough. I was in the Welsh mountains at the weekend (sort of) and there was no shortage of a little more than the usual Welsh mild drizzle!
I would suggest that the costs for Conwy wouldn’t need any fiddling of the passenger income (and passenger numbers are already public)They ought to have the numbers, I doubt they would release them to the public. It would take us back to Beeching style assessments of routes costs and their contribution to revenue. Not many people believed the numbers at the time eg passenger surveys being carried out on the coldest and wettest days on branch lines where, perhaps, the decision had already been taken.
In the Welsh mountains using a vehicle because you stated you didn't want to use a train in fear of being stranded. At the same time you were stuck in Lancaster because the railway stranded you and you had to book a Travelodge. Mix in a load of posts telling people things weren't that bad in several locations.
I'm no detective but I smell a rat.
Weren't they two consecutive weekends ?
I would suggest that the costs for Conwy wouldn’t need any fiddling of the passenger income (and passenger numbers are already public)
I doubt they have!
Possibly.Would relaying the line using concrete based track with nice deep foundations on parts of the line more susceptible to damage worth looking at?