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6Z54 Derails Leyton Midland Road 23/01

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https://www.networkrailmediacentre....ing-line-freight-derailment-monday-27-january

A further update from Network Rail with some more pictures of the damage.

The full extent of the damage is emerging but we have assessed that over a two and a half mile stretch, we need to replace:
• 39 new pieces of rail, 216m long each
• 5,300 concrete sleepers
• 900 wooden sleepers
• 10,000 tonnes of ballast needs to be removed and replaced after track relayed.
• 10 longitudinal timbered bridges to have replacement custom-timbers installed.

A full schedule of repairs is still being finalised but the complex work programme is expected to take a number of weeks with the line part-suspended.
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Some of the track in the pictures looks to have been be past its best before the derailment. Mills clips went out of fashion decades ago, I believe. Ballast doesn't look great, either. What a job, though. GOBLIN has been cursed for the last few years.
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Four-wheel mineral wagons back in BR days that were built to be filled to the top with coal but when transferred to engineering duties could be only filled part way with recovered ballast etc because it is more dense.
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In the mid 1960s we were given a lot of old 5 plankers. The springs were knackered. 4 buckets from a 977 Traxcavator would put the springs on the stops. Trouble was we were never allocated enough wagons so we had to put at least 6 buckets in each wagon. Then it was a case of tripping to the nearest engineers siding where the wagons would be part emptied to go to tip
 
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Dunfanaghy Rd said:
Some of the track in the pictures looks to have been be past its best before the derailment. Mills clips went out of fashion decades ago, I believe. Ballast doesn't look great, either. What a job, though. GOBLIN has been cursed for the last few years.
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I suspect the woods were just across the bridge deck due to bridge weight restrictions and that track either side is concretes. Thought they may have put a few more pictures on. The SE route are regularly putting on pictures and updates about teh Redhill-Tonbridge closure
 
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Mills clips may be obsolete but they are still in place in many areas.
Main problem with them is they are subject to corrosion especially on the bottom side of the clip in the housing.
Easily cured by installing new clips, cheaper than a relay if everthing else is still serviceable..
 
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The Goblin route closure caused by this derailment means that Goblin route goods trains are being diverted via the GEML, Stratford and the North London Line.

I travelled on the NLL earlier today too, and all in all saw a lot more goods trains today than is usual, and many more types of goods train than I've seen for a while.

Today's failed 745 near Forest Gate made life even more complicated. I saw a stranded goods train at Stratford platform 10a. I dont know what happened elsewhere but can only imagine that today is a day that people will regard as a living nightmare.
 
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Latest Railway Magazine states that a broken rail was the cause. It's a bit early for such certainty, isn't it?
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Depends on their source I guess. What is more important is why, how and when the rail was broken. Without that information I think its a bit irresponsible to state that as the cause in a public publication.
 
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As you may know the Gospel Oak - Barking line is closed because of a broken rail.
But why are Network Rail taking so long about repairing and re-opening?
Is the whole line being checked for future problems or is this a kind of finger up at TfL for political reasons?
 
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The short answer is it’s not a quick job to completely replace over 2 miles of sleepers, rails, ballast and fix numerous bridges.
 
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One of the old Railtrack JNAs, I see. had them from new on the Southampton Docks bulk ballast runs in the late 90s. They were pretty rough, being created from the running gear of the bogie railcars that used to lurk in Basingstoke Up Yard. I red carded one on its first trip for a depressed buffer! Another could only be 2/3 loaded or else the bogie graunched the underframe. I'm amazed that they are still running - must be down to the shortage of aggregate boxes.
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https://www.gov.uk/government/news/freight-train-derailment-near-wanstead-park
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At around 06:00 hrs on Thursday 23 January 2020, a freight train travelling from Barking to Calvert derailed on a bridge near Wanstead Park station. The train, comprising a class 66 locomotive and 22 wagons carrying construction soil, then travelled about 2.5 miles (4 km) before the braking system indicated a possible problem to the driver. The train was stopped between Leyton Midland Road and Walthamstow Queens Road stations with one wheelset on the 16th wagon derailed. The derailment resulted in extensive damage to the track, other railway infrastructure and the wagon.

Our investigation will identify the sequence of events which led to the accident and the factors that contributed to its consequences. It will include consideration of:

  • the condition, inspection and maintenance of the track, including the longitudinal bridge timbers supporting the rails
  • wagon condition, inspection, maintenance and loading
  • any underlying factors
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There is also an image which shows the derailed wheelset, showing it was a wheelset at one end of the wagon. The image is not annotated with direction of travel, but the wheel we can see derailed to the four-foot side. Network Rail's pictures (linked in post #91) show damage to the four-foot side of the right hand rail and the cess-side of the left hand rail (assuming the train was operating on the left hand track, as would be normal), strongly suggesting the wheel derailed to the left. This would make it, I think, the trailing wheelset on the wagon.
 
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I'd say that's the leading wheel set. The train was heading from Barking towards Gospel Oak (up T&H) and you can just about see the down T&H behind the wagon...unless thats just a piece of scrap rail.
 
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I'm not certain but it looks like sleepers to the left of the derailed wheel have been damaged but those to the right have not been. Certainly there looks to be a stretcher bar or something just to the right of the wheel that hasn't derailed that looks intact.
 
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I'd say that's the leading wheel set. The train was heading from Barking towards Gospel Oak (up T&H) and you can just about see the down T&H behind the wagon...unless thats just a piece of scrap rail.
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Agreed the previous photos showed wheel damage to the left side of the 4 foot in the direction of travel which combined with the latest photo matches the it as being leading wheelset.
 
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Network Rail say that Gospel Oak to Barking line will reopen Wednesday 19 February.

Following good progress by engineers over the weekend, despite Storm Dennis, services on the Gospel Oak to Barking line are expected to resume on Wednesday 19 February.

Network Rail’s engineers are repairing damage caused by a derailed freight wagon and the work is almost complete with all the new track now installed. Final critical works are being carried out over the next couple of days.
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https://www.networkrailmediacentre....railment-line-to-reopen-wednesday-19-february
 
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