CrossCountry HST Diagrams

221129 · 18 Feb 2020

Mitchell Hurd said:
Edit: Apparently catering stuff was loaded in Coach G - sorry but there's Coach B for that which had a static trolley when I was last on an HST just over a month ago from Exeter St. David's to Bristol Temple Meads.

Coach B is the one that is missing. Catering supplies and equipment being stored in the TGS.

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Mitchell Hurd · 18 Feb 2020

221129 said:
Coach B is the one that is missing. Catering supplies and equipment being stored in the TGS.

Stupid me, that make sense now

!

Let's hope that the 15:03 from Birmingham New Street to Edinburgh is a 6-coach HST (no Coach B) which means the catering trolley will be in the Guards Van in Coach G - my seat reservation is nearest the train office door. Also with 6 coaches, a little faster acceleration too.

43055 · 18 Feb 2020

Mitchell Hurd said:
Stupid me, that make sense now !

Let's hope that the 15:03 from Birmingham New Street to Edinburgh is a 6-coach HST (no Coach B) which means the catering trolley will be in the Guards Van in Coach G - my seat reservation is nearest the train office door. Also with 6 coaches, a little faster acceleration too.

If it's on the 0611 Leeds to Plymouth it will return on the 1227 Plymouth to Glasgow which is the 1603 from Birmingham.

Class172 · 18 Feb 2020

43055 said:
If it's on the 0611 Leeds to Plymouth it will return on the 1227 Plymouth to Glasgow which is the 1603 from Birmingham.

That's certainly the diagram it was on yesterday.

Mitchell Hurd · 18 Feb 2020

43055 said:
If it's on the 0611 Leeds to Plymouth it will return on the 1227 Plymouth to Glasgow which is the 1603 from Birmingham.

Sorry, I meant on the 16/04/20

. If I'm very honest, in terms of seats, a loss of Coach B on a 7-coach XC HST isn't something to be too worried about as the only loss of Standard Class seats are the 8 unreserved ones. Plus I imagine there won't be a massive amount of First Class passengers anyway.

Rich McLean · 18 Feb 2020

Sunday 23rd Feb

All via Lichfield TV

1S56 1325 Plymouth - Edinburgh

1V48 0810 Leeds - Plymouth

1V50 0900 Leeds - Plymouth
1E64 1527 Plymouth - York

1V66 1355 Edinburgh - Plymouth

221129 · 18 Feb 2020

Class172 said:
That's certainly the diagram it was on yesterday.

Not it wasn't!

221129 · 18 Feb 2020

Mitchell Hurd said:
Sorry, I meant on the 16/04/20 . If I'm very honest, in terms of seats, a loss of Coach B on a 7-coach XC HST isn't something to be too worried about as the only loss of Standard Class seats are the 8 unreserved ones. Plus I imagine there won't be a massive amount of First Class passengers anyway.

Due to be reformed tomorrow night on Neville Hill.

Class172 · 18 Feb 2020

221129 said:
Not it wasn't!

I was on the train yesterday and they kept making announcements about the service being short-formed due to a carriage being missing (it was also advertised as 6 coaches on the PIS screens). Is there something that makes you think otherwise (is there more than 6-coach set about at the moment)?

43055 · 18 Feb 2020

Class172 said:
I was on the train yesterday and they kept making announcements about the service being short-formed due to a carriage being missing (it was also advertised as 6 coaches on the PIS screens). Is there something that makes you think otherwise (is there more than 6-coach set about at the moment)?

Looks like both are running as 6 car ATM. One with no coach B the other with no coach E. The latter was yours yesterday as it is on 1V50 today.

Class172 · 18 Feb 2020

43055 said:
Looks like both are running as 6 car ATM. One with no coach B the other with no coach E. The latter was yours yesterday as it is on 1V50 today.

Ah that makes sense, thanks for the clarification.

221129 · 18 Feb 2020

Class172 said:
I was on the train yesterday and they kept making announcements about the service being short-formed due to a carriage being missing (it was also advertised as 6 coaches on the PIS screens). Is there something that makes you think otherwise (is there more than 6-coach set about at the moment)?

Two things make me know it wasn't, 1) I've checked the allocations and 2) The sets cannot be in Leeds and Edinburgh at the same time!

43 302 · 18 Feb 2020

What sets are running today? Are they both 6 car sets?

221129 · 18 Feb 2020

43 302 said:
What sets are running today? Are they both 6 car sets?

No. At least not this evening XC03 with Catering vehicle missing and XC04

43 302 · 18 Feb 2020

XC04 on 1E63?

221129 · 18 Feb 2020

43 302 said:
XC04 on 1E63?

Yep. XC02 and XC04 swapped over.

43 302 · 18 Feb 2020

What set is 42 374 in?

221129 · 18 Feb 2020

43 302 said:
What set is 42 374 in?

It's a Spare.

43 302 · 18 Feb 2020

221129 said:
It's a Spare.

Thanks. Guess it could have been any set then.

221129 · 18 Feb 2020

43 302 said:
Thanks. Guess it could have been any set then.

If it is currently in a set it will be in XC01.

jazzy · 18 Feb 2020

Rich McLean said:
Sunday 23rd Feb

All via Lichfield TV

1S56 1325 Plymouth - Edinburgh

1V48 0810 Leeds - Plymouth

1V50 0900 Leeds - Plymouth
1E64 1527 Plymouth - York

1V66 1355 Edinburgh - Plymouth

Thank you, that matched my educated guessing on RTT

43 302 · 18 Feb 2020

I think XC01 is on 1E63 as I'm on 42 366 is this the case?

221129 · 18 Feb 2020

43 302 said:
I think XC01 is on 1E63 as I'm on 42 366 is this the case?

XC04 is on 1E63

43 302 · 18 Feb 2020

221129 said:
XC04 is on 1E63

Ah. I thought 42 366 was part of XC01

221129 · 18 Feb 2020

43 302 said:
Ah. I thought 42 366 was part of XC01

Sets chop and change.

sufian123 · 18 Feb 2020

jazzy said:
That my suspicion...

From RTT I reckon the following Plymouth departures might be the HSTs but I'd welcome expert opinions!
1S56 1325 Plymouth to Edinburgh
1E64 1527 Plymouth to York
1E67 1625 Plymouth to Leeds

sunday 23rd will be different if booked to be anyway

0810 Leeds-plymouth then goes to depot
0900 Leeds-Plymouth then 1527 ply-York
1325 Plymouth to Edinburgh
1355 Edinburgh to Plymouth then to depot

Rhydgaled · 18 Feb 2020

Is there 'normal' way round for the XC sets to be marshalled (ie. first class either at the north end or south end) or are they in 'reverse formation' as often as not?

221129 · 18 Feb 2020

Rhydgaled said:
Is there 'normal' way round for the XC sets to be marshalled (ie. first class either at the north end or south end) or are they in 'reverse formation' as often as not?

The correct formation is first class at the 'South' end

Mitchell Hurd · 21 Feb 2020

221129 said:
The correct formation is first class at the 'South' end

Just out of curiosity, why this is the correct formation when XC don't offer forward / backward seats?

I'm booked into the Quiet Coach at a window table seat that would normally be forwards on the opposite side (seaview side if backwards) - I can just simply concentrate on the train getting me to Edinburgh on the 16/04/20.

Rich McLean · 21 Feb 2020

Mitchell Hurd said:
Just out of curiosity, why this is the correct formation when XC don't offer forward / backward seats?

I'm booked into the Quiet Coach at a window table seat that would normally be forwards on the opposite side (seaview side if backwards) - I can just simply concentrate on the train getting me to Edinburgh on the 16/04/20.

Many XC trains can reverse en route, hence why no forward or backwards facing options.

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