GA Class 745 and 755 initial diagrams

StephenHunter · 11 Jan 2020

Where are these running at the moment? Is it just 745 007 in service ATM for the former type?

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TrainTube · 11 Jan 2020

The 755s are running on routes out of Norwich, and I believe a 3 car is on Ipswich to Felixstowe. As for the 745s I believe only 1 is in service on LST-Norwich services. It departs LST at 10:00, arrives at Norwich at around 11:50 and departs Norwich at 12:30, arriving at LST at around 14:20. It becomes the 15:00 out and so on.

Alfie1014 · 11 Jan 2020

The 755s are working on all rural routes now except Marks Tey to Sudbury which is supposed to go over later this month. That said on going reliability problems with the 755s mean that the handful of 156s and the one 170 are still out and about especially on routes from Ipswich.

J@ke · 17 Jan 2020

Does anyone know if the 745s will be running tomorrow (and on what diagrams please)?

StephenHunter · 22 Jan 2020

Alfie1014 said:
The 755s are working on all rural routes now except Marks Tey to Sudbury which is supposed to go over later this month. That said on going reliability problems with the 755s mean that the handful of 156s and the one 170 are still out and about especially on routes from Ipswich.

Marks Tey to Sudbury has now switched. They're covering all the non-electrified, mostly ex-Regional Railways, routes now; everything else is generally using 321s or 360s.

dk1 · 23 Jan 2020

J@ke said:
Does anyone know if the 745s will be running tomorrow (and on what diagrams please)?

Only 745007 at the moment on the usual diagram. 745006/010 are imminent although which diagram next remains to be confirmed.

Murray J · 25 Jan 2020

745010 is in service, not sure what diagram though.

dk1 · 25 Jan 2020

Murray J said:
745010 is in service, not sure what diagram though.

Cant go anywhere today.

Murray J · 25 Jan 2020

why not?

JonathanH · 25 Jan 2020

Murray J said:
why not?

Presumably Crown Point depot is inside a possession and that is where the 745s are.

dk1 · 25 Jan 2020

Murray J said:
why not?

Engineering block Trowse to Diss & it's in the Low Level Sidings at Norwich. They are only used Monday-Friday anyway at the moment.

SWTrainspottin · 11 Feb 2020

Anyone know if both 745 diagrams are out today or not? Thanks

dk1 · 11 Feb 2020

SWTrainspottin said:
Anyone know if both 745 diagrams are out today or not? Thanks

Confusing reports. One says yes the other no however the 0740 is booked to have 8 passenger coaches and is also upside down.

dk1 · 11 Feb 2020

SWTrainspottin said:
Anyone know if both 745 diagrams are out today or not? Thanks

Looks like both 007 & 010 are out on the regular diagrams.

TrainTube · 15 Feb 2020

Will any new diagrams be 745s from Monday?

TrainTube · 19 Feb 2020

Is a 745 running on the 11:02 out of Liverpool Street? GA state that it is reduced to trolley service, unless it's a 321.

dk1 · 19 Feb 2020

TrainTube said:
Is a 745 running on the 11:02 out of Liverpool Street? GA state that it is reduced to trolley service, unless it's a 321.

90/DVT.

urpert · 21 Feb 2020

007 is on the diagram today (I’m on it at the moment)

fisher69 · 3 Mar 2020

how many 745s are working today please ??

StephenHunter · 4 Mar 2020

Apparently now up to three with a fourth spare. One was on the 1330 from Liverpool Street, following a Network Rail train top and tailed by 37s, but I couldn't see the number from my vantage point.

dk1 · 4 Mar 2020

fisher69 said:
how many 745s are working today please ??

002, 006, 007 & 010 have all been in passenger traffic at some point today although not all at the same time.

Felix A · 7 Mar 2020

Are GA doing this systematically or is it just a luck of the draw as to what I get. Looking to book tickets a few weeks in advance and would like to be on one of the old sets at least one way.

Many thanks.

JonathanH · 7 Mar 2020

Felix A said:
Are GA doing this systematically or is it just a luck of the draw as to what I get. Looking to book tickets a few weeks in advance and would like to be on one of the old sets at least one way.

Many thanks.

They are doing it systematically. All train fleets are introduced in a systematic way because the planners have to take the training plan into account in deciding which rosters have trained staff on them. Therefore, the first two diagrams switched over are both captive to Norwich. Then, later, they will find it possible to change a diagram which outstables. (Towards the end of the rundown, it is sometimes useful to switch one of the first converted diagrams back because you want to keep the old fleet captive.)

D.K.TAYLOR · 8 Mar 2020

StephenHunter said:
Apparently now up to three with a fourth spare. One was on the 1330 from Liverpool Street, following a Network Rail train top and tailed by 37s, but I couldn't see the number from my vantage point.

It was number 10 saw the front 37 leaving Liverpool Street it was 37612 only heard the back one

RailWonderer · 11 Mar 2020

745 010 on the East Anglian 17:00 ex-LST. New diagram so far.

dk1 · 11 Mar 2020

RailWonderer said:
745 010 on the East Anglian 17:00 ex-LST. New diagram so far.

I think the plan now is it does 0500up 0730dn then steps up into that diagram from the 0930up.

ScotGG · 12 Mar 2020

Could someone tell me what departures from Liverpool Street to Norwich are now 745s?

I'm hoping to catch one from 10am-1pm ideally. Thanks

RailWonderer · 12 Mar 2020

Which departures from Liverpool Street are 745s besides the 14:00, 15:00, 19:02 and 20:00?
The 13:30 and 14:30 I think have been 745. @dk1 can you confirm? It’s my last day in London for a while.

JonathanH · 12 Mar 2020

So are the diagrams this week the following:

1P01 0500 NRW-LST / 1P08 0730 LST-NRW / 1P25 0930 NRW-LST / 1P26 1200 LST-NRW / 1P45 1430 NRW-LST / 1P46 1700 LST-NRW / 1P63 1900 NRW-LST / 1P68 2130 LST-NRW
1P05 0600 NRW-LST / 1P12 0830 LST-NRW / 1P31 1100 NRW-LST / 1P32 1330 LST-NRW / 1P51 1600 NRW-LST / 1P56 1830 LST-NRW / 1P71 2100 NRW-LST / 1P72 2330 LST-NRW
1P11 0648 NRW-LST / 1P14 0900 LST-NRW / 1P33 1130 NRW-LST / 1P34 1400 LST-NRW / 1P53 1630 NRW-LST / 1P58 1902 LST-NRW
1P15 0740 NRW-LST / 1P18 1000 LST-NRW / 1P37 1230 NRW-LST / 1P38 1500 LST-NRW / 1P57 1730 NRW-LST / 1P62 2000 LST-NRW

subject to alteration due to stepping up whenever necessary.

(LST = London Liverpool Street, NRW = Norwich)

I note that Iris for Colchester currently shows 1P60 1930 LST-NRW formed of 12 coaches this evening and 1P62 2000 LST-NRW formed of 8 coaches. This seems to be the upshot of the stock for 1P37 being stepped up at Norwich to work 1P35 1200 NRW-LST earlier after 1P18 and other workings being uncovered. It explains the 1430 from Liverpool Street being a 745 today instead of the 1500.

dk1 · 13 Mar 2020

JonathanH said:
I note that Iris for Colchester currently shows 1P60 1930 LST-NRW formed of 12 coaches this evening and 1P62 2000 LST-NRW formed of 8 coaches. This seems to be the upshot of the stock for 1P37 being stepped up at Norwich to work 1P35 1200 NRW-LST earlier after 1P18 and other workings being uncovered. It explains the 1430 from Liverpool Street being a 745 today instead of the 1500.

Yes 1P37/1P38 where knocked on the head & the Stadler used for 1P35 12:00up & its 1P36 return working. It then remained on that diagram for the 17:04up.

GA Class 745 and 755 initial diagrams

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