OmniCity999
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No, towards the uni then take a left instead of going into the uni, along to the end of the road then left again and back on itself.
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No, towards the uni then take a left instead of going into the uni, along to the end of the road then left again and back on itself.
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I take it the ECB PVR increases with all that? Is there flex in the existing fleet or new vehicles due that soon?
If these changes are reliant on deliveries it feels a bit high risk given that whatever it will be will be a new type for the fleet and will need testing / familiarisation?
If these changes are reliant on deliveries it feels a bit high risk given that whatever it will be will be a new type for the fleet and will need testing / familiarisation?
overthewater
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What other changes can we expect over the next 3 years? No12 never going back to leith, I can the 16 getting rerouted and 22 curtailed.
ScotRail158725
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doubt they’d curtail the 12 considering its not got really anywhere to be curtailed to
TheEastCoaster
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I’m extremely curious about the new night bus services N14 and N49,
I knew Lothian had a N14 the last few Hogmanay but now we have the full thing here to replace the N7! I think another night bus to the Hospital is a good idea especially linking it with Greendykes
The N49 was definitely a surprise, seemed like a missed opportunity to have it run from the Royal Infirmary instead of Surgeons Hall, but hey Lochend finally has a night bus service again after all these years and it runs directly to the jewel!
I knew Lothian had a N14 the last few Hogmanay but now we have the full thing here to replace the N7! I think another night bus to the Hospital is a good idea especially linking it with Greendykes
The N49 was definitely a surprise, seemed like a missed opportunity to have it run from the Royal Infirmary instead of Surgeons Hall, but hey Lochend finally has a night bus service again after all these years and it runs directly to the jewel!
The initial council plans for post-tram were:
Seems they're getting a head start with the 1/12 and 10.
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THe big question has to be what does Lothian have planned to replace the these cuts, one hopes they have ideas to improve the network elsewhere in the city,
Agreed it seems to be Corstophine and City Centre that always benefits from buses.
Ideally I would increase the frequency of the 200 and 400 to match the 300, make all Skylink's express buses. Far too many stops on the 400 which is highly depressing just getting to Calder Road from the Airport!
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How about improvements else where in the city? like sorting out no30. Making the 200 every 10mins from Ingliston - granton to help combat the traffic, etc
It's depressing enough trying to get down Calder road at the moment with those roadworks
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There’s no way the Skylinks will work as expresses, since they are meant to be local services that just happen to go to the airport, the 100 makes sense as it’s a premium service direct to the city centre, and the 200/300/400 are just revamps of the 32/35/18 respectively
Personally my issue is that there are just far too many stops in Edinburgh itself. Whilst I agree with you that Skylink are revamps of previous buses, I still believe they should be some form of express buses, what Lothian could do is additional non Skylink buses to sections of the routes that would compliment the express Skylink.
Fair enough not as limited stop as the 100, but nothing compared to the 80+ stops on 400 and 50+ stops on the 200/300.
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Would a Skylink 500 service work, possibly as an extension on the 140? Ie. Mussleburgh, Dalkeith, Bonnyrigg, Lasswade, Loanhead, along Niven's Knowe Road, Straiton, then the bypass then Gyle Centre (?), RBS Gogarburn (?), P&R then Airport. It would give people in towns from Dalkeith to Straiton a faster link to the Airport, RBS and Gyle Centre than the 400. People in Mussleburgh though might still be faster going into town and changing for the 100?
Whilst I'm sure if it was tried it would pick up custom I wouldn't put bypass and faster in the same sentence unless your barring running between 7-10am and 4-7pm. Its carnage then!
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Is there an emergency lane on the left which could be turned into a bus lane for when the traffic is heavy?
Not consistently, and as it's an A road the on/off ramps aren't built to Motorway standard sadly. I think Lothian avoid doing anything but crossing it where it can't be avoided (Sheriffhall) and running off peak dead runs down with good reason!
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was said ages ago and it’s probobly the most pointless thing ive ever seen proposed on this forum
why make it an express? absolutely no need. the 300 and 400 especially are used well in both directions at peak times and removing stops would be ridiculous. the only way i could see an express 400 POTENTIALLY work would be a similar sutuation to Londons express 607 along Uxbrridge road where the west half is shadowed by the 427 and east shadowed by 207
OmniCity999
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New vehicles arriving soon although they'll not need to provide type training as their all similar enough to what's already around.
If they do need to provide type training, for whatever reason, they can keep some B7's on for a bit.
Although new deliveries are rumoured at Enviro400 bodied B5LH and B5TL's. We already have Enviro bodied vehicles in the fleet and we already have B5TL and B5LH's. Which coveres mechanical knowledge and body knowledge. Same with singles and the B8RLE. We already have B8RLE and the B8L in the fleet.
cnjb8
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Just out of interest, why do you specify buses with glazed staircases? It's not a criticism but I've always wondered why.
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because its high spec. always found this as a bit unfair for advertisers as this means they cant, unless they get a mod, use t-adverts on them and at the rate Lothian are going they’ll have none of those in 5 years time
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Info on the X15 has now been added to the service changes article:
https://www.lothianbuses.com/news/2020/02/service-change-to-take-effect-from-sunday-29-march-2020/
scotrail158713
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It’s not a pointless proposal. There’s definitely a market for East and Midlothian to the Airport/Gyle area. If the bypass didn’t suffer from such bad congestion it would be perfect.
This is true, thanks for the explanation!
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there may be a market but certainly not a big enough market that would warrant a route let alone an express route along the bypass. not everywhere needs a direct bus route to everywhere. if i was making a journey from wherever in Midlothian i wouldnt mind changing one bus in the city centre
If the X15 will serve all stops on Portobello Road, it seems like a missed opportunity to change all 124s to express along that corridor.
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I’m assuming X15/124 timetables will be done so that they provide a combined 15 min frequency between Eastfield and Lothian Road.
I do think people in Portobello might get confused at first when it stops everywhere, either way hopefully it works as it’d be good if it continued.
I do think people in Portobello might get confused at first when it stops everywhere, either way hopefully it works as it’d be good if it continued.
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That is probably it, which explains the frequency increase on Saturdays for the 124 and with the combination of the X15 on Monday to Friday
OmniCity999
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I never mentioned it...
That's exactly what I suggested, adding a Lothian bus to compliment the express 400, I was not saying make it an express and leave the rest to dry. As an airport bus it should be a faster journey end to end. The 400 simply doesn't do this, especially between the airport and Calder Road for example.
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