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ILoveLamp

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Why exactly is this company getting the RailUK forensic examination? Have they done something wrong?

I think it is because they suddenly seemed to be a factor in offering the Psychometric Tests when only DB Schenker were doing so, and with many people desperate for a leg-up on their application it would be easy to scam people out of £500. So I assume the in depth look into their company is one of curiosity to see if they are really who they say they are. IMO
 

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Why exactly is this company getting the RailUK forensic examination? Have they done something wrong?
No one was suggesting that they had done anything wrong but when a company suddenly pops up offering exactly what a large number of people want (myself included) for a not insignificant amount of money then I'm certainly checking them out before parting with my hard earned money, hence why I started this thread
 

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As this thread has been brought to our attention here are some answers to the questions raised:

-All of those involved with the company have experience within the railway, including driver and driver manager grade. More importantly all have significant experience within the recruitment of drivers.

-Regarding whether test results are accepted by train/freight operators. We have been collaborating with other centers to ensure candidates results are accepted by all train/freight operators.

-We are a new company and as such there is limited information regarding our services. Last month of four candidates we sent for testing 3 have been offered roles, with the fourth due to be interviewed tomorrow.

-We are registered with the Office of Rail and Road.

-We are listed as approved suppliers with the RSSB (Rail Safety and Standards Board).

-Whilst we appreciate that people are curious about a new provider. Some of the comments are defamatory in particular relating to the posting of personal details on this thread. We will be discussing this with Rail Forums. In the meantime we would ask that users please remove those posts.

-The aforementioned candidates are our first but you will be hearing a lot more of us in the future. If you have any questions please feel free to contact us through our website, or email address associated with this account.

-As mentioned we are a new company and are busy at the moment but we will ensure we get back to you as soon as possible.
 

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-We are a new company and as such there is limited information regarding our services. Last month of four candidates we sent for testing 3 have been offered roles, with the fourth due to be interviewed tomorrow.

Does this mean you don't carry out the test yourselves ? Who carries them out ?

-We are registered with the Office of Rail and Road.

-We are listed as approved suppliers with the RSSB (Rail Safety and Standards Board).

Do you have a link for that please ?

-Whilst we appreciate that people are curious about a new provider. Some of the comments are defamatory in particular relating to the posting of personal details on this thread. We will be discussing this with Rail Forums. In the meantime we would ask that users please remove those posts.

Your names are a matter of public record. If you find anything defamatory, please use the report button of the post concerned.
 

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Firstly thank you to those who’ve amended posts.

We are well aware that details are publicly available. We are also aware of the rules and procedures around this and context is key.

We hope to work with Rail Forums and their members in the near future. As we said earlier, we understand a reasonable level of curiosity around a new provider of train driver tests.

Link to RSSB:

www.rssb.co.uk/Membership/RSSB-members

Railway Competence Group is under suppliers list.

ORR register is not currently publicly available, however I’m sure you can enquire with them directly.

Regarding test providers. There is a long process to registration for psychometric testing. As part of this process we are currently working with other providers.
 

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I know of a few of the people behind this.

Extremely competent, current and vastly experienced in the services they offer.

If your struggling to pass the MMI/DMI then you literally couldn't get better advice than this firm.

*I have not been paid or even spoken to regarding this company.
 

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Firstly thank you to those who’ve amended posts.

We are well aware that details are publicly available. We are also aware of the rules and procedures around this and context is key.

We hope to work with Rail Forums and their members in the near future. As we said earlier, we understand a reasonable level of curiosity around a new provider of train driver tests.

Link to RSSB:

www.rssb.co.uk/Membership/RSSB-members

Railway Competence Group is under suppliers list.

ORR register is not currently publicly available, however I’m sure you can enquire with them directly.

Regarding test providers. There is a long process to registration for psychometric testing. As part of this process we are currently working with other providers.

I started this thread after finding your company last week and as I'm sure you can understand wanted to confirm everything was legitimate before booking with you.

as your using other test centers which I assume will prioritise there own work how long from booking with you would it take to get assessment dates and can you provide certificates of passes afterwards?
And which tests do you include in your assessments?
 
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I started this thread after finding your company last week and as I'm sure you can understand wanted to confirm everything was legitimate before booking with you.

as your using other test centers which I assume will prioritise there own work how long from booking with you would it take to get assessment dates and can you provide certificates of passes afterwards?
And which tests do you include in your assessments?


I am conscious of not advertising without prior agreement with Rail forums. Please address questions regarding dates through website or email associated with this account.
 

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Just a reminder to all to please ensure that posts are reasonable, respectful and are not potentially defamatory in nature. If anyone has any concerns regarding any forum post, please ensure these are reported using the report button.
I am conscious of not advertising without prior agreement with Rail forums. Please address questions regarding dates through website or email associated with this account.
Not to worry; answering questions from members is not considered advertising and we are happy for you to engage with members on this forum :)
 

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Another reminder to please ensure all your posts are within forum rules clearly set out here.

I am sure these guys would be more than happy to address people's concerns and answer questions. Please do not imply any wrongdoing without solid evidence, as that is disrespectful and cannot be allowed.

Furthermore to clarify, there is nothing wrong with posting publicly available information, however once again you are not allowed to collate such information and present it in a way that implies wrongdoing without good evidence. The final decision on how posts may be interpreted rests with forum staff.
 

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And perhaps the bigger question would be do the TOCs recognise them as providing valid test results! DB are a recognised company who have been doing them for donkey's years so TOCs wouldn't, you'd think, have any qualms about it. But this new somewhat unknown company?

Our tests are recognised by all Train and Freight operators. The tests are standardized as opposed to each centre providing different tests.

In short they aren’t our tests, no more than any other provider has their tests. There are standard tests which we can provide.

As referenced in another post we are currently working with other centers whilst in the process of obtaining independent test centre status.

As such our tests have been completed by the established centers who we have been working with.

As referenced previously there are governing bodies associated with railway psychometric testing.

A simple way to check would be through the Railway and Safety Standards Board (RSSB) where we are listed as suppliers.

https://www.rssb.co.uk/Membership/RSSB-members

Or through the Office of Road and Rail (ORR). They do not currently have a publicly available list but I’m sure they can provide answers to legitimate queries regarding psychometric testing.
 

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Our tests are recognised by all Train and Freight operators. The tests are standardized as opposed to each centre providing different tests.

In short they aren’t our tests, no more than any other provider has their tests. There are standard tests which we can provide.

As referenced in another post we are currently working with other centers whilst in the process of obtaining independent test centre status.

As such our tests have been completed by the established centers who we have been working with.

As referenced previously there are governing bodies associated with railway psychometric testing.

A simple way to check would be through the Railway and Safety Standards Board (RSSB) where we are listed as suppliers.

https://www.rssb.co.uk/Membership/RSSB-members

Or through the Office of Road and Rail (ORR). They do not currently have a publicly available list but I’m sure they can provide answers to legitimate queries regarding psychometric testing.
Thanks for clarifying!
 

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Has anyone had any dealings with a website called Traindriving.co.uk or railway competence group ? The website is offering the chance to pay to sit the psychometric assessments POA, I enquired and received an email from RCP with a price of £549 for all assessments, the old saying if something sounds to good to be true comes to mind I'm afraid

Don't ever think about doing this. OPC will test you for free- it's their results that count. I cannot believe that people would even pay this!
 

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I am 100 % interested in doing them. I have sent a message through their website and privately on here but had no reply yet.
 

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I know of a few of the people behind this.

Extremely competent, current and vastly experienced in the services they offer.

If your struggling to pass the MMI/DMI then you literally couldn't get better advice than this firm.

*I have not been paid or even spoken to regarding this company.

If you're struggling with an MMI DMI then I don't think £500 is going to save you. It's very, very basic stuff....but when there's a market....
 

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I am 100 % interested in doing them. I have sent a message through their website and privately on here but had no reply yet.
Apologies for delay we have been busy and are working through requests.

We have no further dates available until June.
 

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I think we're done here. I'm certain that those behind this have declared what they're up to to their employer and it is therefore up to the employer to decide whether or not they're happy with the situation. Considering that no-one appears to have been sacked or asked to resign and the firm are up and running my guess is that they're happy. Otherwise I don't think there's anything to be gained by doing the same conversation over and over again so this thread is locked.
 
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