says Traveline said to use first 95.. that won’t exist.
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First aren’t depriving anyone. It’s a tendered route. First didn't win the tender! If there is no alternative that falls solely at CC! The perranporth routes and 91 are the commercial routes
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OK I hadn’t realised the 93 was tendered. So has a tendered 93 been awarded to GCB that is missing from Traveline then?
It’s not on GCB registrations neither.
I’d assumed the Truro to Newquay airport headline route would be part of the 93 replacement (Truro- Columb major- airport - Newquay) but no sign of it as yet
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As owners of Newquay Airport, maybe Cornwall Council are aware of something that may be coming up that will reduce the number of passengers needing onward transport considerably!?
It was their headline route in their press release 4 weeks ago though!!
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Harold Wilson famously said 'A week is a long time in politics', so four weeks is almost a lifetime! Coronavirus could be lobbed in as an excuse, but the possibility of FlyBe's bail-out being declared illegal, or that reprieve only having the same temporary effect as Thomas Cook's did, is very real. Now, it's March and, looking outside, it's still winter so I think I'll book a nice couple of weeks in Tenerife or Italy to get away from it all, flying from my local airport.....;lol:
indeed, but the registrations should have been sent in by the time that press release was done!
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While I'm being political, I'll just say there are Ways and Means, which just happens to be the name of a parliamentary committee!
We've had a response back from the Cornwall Councillor (cabinet member for transport) thus:
"I have checked with officers and it is indeed fake news! The 93 will be operated by Plymouth Citybus under the brand of Transport for Cornwall as part of our new and improved bus contract.
I suspect the current operator/driver may have suggested that they are no longer running the service which is correct, hence the misunderstanding.
The new service commences on 1st April but you residents should see no loss of service."
I'm still a little concerned that it does not appear on gov.uk nor traveline (when the other new Citybus routes do), or what is supposed to happen between 29th and 31st March, but it does appear to be good news for St Columb residents.
"I have checked with officers and it is indeed fake news! The 93 will be operated by Plymouth Citybus under the brand of Transport for Cornwall as part of our new and improved bus contract.
I suspect the current operator/driver may have suggested that they are no longer running the service which is correct, hence the misunderstanding.
The new service commences on 1st April but you residents should see no loss of service."
I'm still a little concerned that it does not appear on gov.uk nor traveline (when the other new Citybus routes do), or what is supposed to happen between 29th and 31st March, but it does appear to be good news for St Columb residents.
The new contract has been revised for the outgoing services to end close of day 28th March and new services from
29th March.
Possibly contact citybus directly?
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Sad state of affairs when the councillor ultimately responsible for all this doesn't know what's going on.
They'll be given a briefing sheet just before the photo op of a bus setting off to (insert new destination) on (insert actual startup date) which the local newspapers will publish under the headline 'New bus service is just the ticket'**, so they'll know what's happening at that point.
** - other standard headlines are also available, however very few!
It's possible that it's been registered as part of another service however, even if it hasn't, it can still be registered at short notice over the next month. Traveline have enough trouble making sure the data for this weeks services are correct, the Cornwall timetables for after the change are likely to be revised many times over the next few weeks so I'm sure it'll appear there soon.
Somebody might even update the Cornwall county council website at some point to reflect what's going on however as the 'Ongoing developments' refers to something that was supposed to happen in December 2019 perhaps it might be best to avoid it! Similarly it's always possible the Go Cornwall will provide a website at some point!
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Another two E200s on their delivery run:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/psvcircle/permalink/3177436978941157/?app=fbl
These have arrived remarkably quickly. I assume they're either dealer stock or diverted orders.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/psvcircle/permalink/3177436978941157/?app=fbl
These have arrived remarkably quickly. I assume they're either dealer stock or diverted orders.
Optimistic. They’ve been running services in the east of Cornwall since they bought out western greyhound the December before WG demise. They have Go Cornwall vinyls on many of the buses in this area (all of the Cremyll ones, a tourist area, would tourists know to search for something different?) but that doesn’t Bring any successful obvious searches. Before driving for FK, I did publicity for a small Indy with a 2 vehicle pvr and even we had a website, strong Facebook presence, etc it’s basic stuff in this day!
dealer stock. Plus 1 Demo whilst a new build is made as ADL sold 1 vehicle more than held in stock!
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So I don't suppose we can expect USB ports or WiFi. Dealer stock tends to be bargain basement spec.
OTS is apparently meant to open a new depot to support its increased operations in Falmouth, where it will be located remains to be seen, the waste land by Sainsbury's at Ponsharden maybe?
https://www.falmouthpacket.co.uk/news/18273672.ots-joins-forces-go-cornwall-bus/
https://www.falmouthpacket.co.uk/news/18273672.ots-joins-forces-go-cornwall-bus/
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Interesting that they're going to renew the fleet again after four years.
they’ve always kept fleet refreshed and upgraded at a younger age. Possibly terms of a lease? Sprinter type buses that’s probably most of their best life past. Having driven high mileage sprinters in the past 250-300k at 4 years was seeing a lot of faults on that fleet of vans and they were replaced at 4 years as policy.
With the Falmouth routes not being too long in length, with most buses out and back to the Moor in 1-2 hours or so, possible routes for electric buses when they become reliable and last long enough, when they renew the fleet in four years time or the time after that, one on charge at the depot or maybe on the Moor and then swap them over?
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Yes, I was thinking electric as well. Around 160 miles without recharging is achievable now, so I'm sure the range will be that much greater in a few years time, as well as the cost coming down.
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On the VOSA Bus Service registrations for today (02-Mar-2020) are registrations for an amendment to Service 12B and also new Services 371 and 373.
There is also a registration for extension of Service 71 (Saltash - Liskeard) to become Service 71 between Derriford Hospital and Liskeard and with it an improved level of service. The current Service 71 (Saltash - Liskeard) provides 5 journeys each way Mondays to Fridays (except Public Holidays) with 4 each way on Saturdays and no Sunday / Bank Holiday service. The extension to Derriford Hospital will mean an hourly service from Derriford Hospital to Saltash, with one bus every 2 hours running through to Liskeard and others terminating at Burraton (The Ploughboy). New timetable has 14 journeys in total each way Mondays to Saturdays but with no Sunday or Bank Holiday journeys.
I mist admit I wondered if somebody would one day find a way of running Liskeard to Derriford without going via. Callington and Tavistock. The timetables on TravelineSW.
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There is also a registration for extension of Service 71 (Saltash - Liskeard) to become Service 71 between Derriford Hospital and Liskeard and with it an improved level of service. The current Service 71 (Saltash - Liskeard) provides 5 journeys each way Mondays to Fridays (except Public Holidays) with 4 each way on Saturdays and no Sunday / Bank Holiday service. The extension to Derriford Hospital will mean an hourly service from Derriford Hospital to Saltash, with one bus every 2 hours running through to Liskeard and others terminating at Burraton (The Ploughboy). New timetable has 14 journeys in total each way Mondays to Saturdays but with no Sunday or Bank Holiday journeys.
I mist admit I wondered if somebody would one day find a way of running Liskeard to Derriford without going via. Callington and Tavistock. The timetables on TravelineSW.
HTIOI,
Dave
And the technology is only going to get better and cheaper, with them being council services they are going to be more accountable to scrutiny, so if I was the council I would be getting the operators to use electric buses as soon as financially and practically possible to meet targets, 4 years is a long time in the technology world as well so who knows?
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Well over 200 in service in London now, with more service by the day. The recent batch of double deckers on the very busy route 94 entered service very quickly and smoothly almost straight after delivery.
I can see easily electric buses in regular service in Cornwall within the next very few years.
Going full circle from trams and trolley buses back to electric buses in some places.
Can see the PR1/PR1a services being one of the first to go electric, although they might wait until the current Citaros need replacing
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Citaros go on for ever so we might be waiting a while...